On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 10:53:41AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 12:24:41 +0200 > berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > > > Otherwise, if you do not like grub, there are other boot loaders. > > LILO at least works fine, and seems to be ok for your requirements: a > > single easy text file as configuration. > > It's what I'm doing, excepted at work for 2 reasons: it does not > > seems to support the new crap named... how is it named? Secure boot? > > Something like that. The fun thing about that is that the grub > > installation did not allowed me to have a dual boot with the original > > windows, so I could be using LILO right now it would not change > > anything. The other reason is that I do prefer mainstream stuff on > > computers that I do not want to tinker. Never had any problem with > > LILO, but just in case... > > Thanks for the great suggestion. I had originally ruled out LILO (which > I used back in the 20th century) because it can't deal with EFI boot,
No, but there's a ... I'm not sure if it's a fork of LILO or a totally separate project ... called ELILO that can be booted from EFI. > as I remember. But (let's all take some time to laugh), my boot disk is > a 250 SSD with an MRB partition, so EFI (and secure boot) is a > non-issue. As I understand it, the ability for EFI to boot from an MBR is optional (EFI + GPT is mandatory, but some firmwares allow EFI + MBR). YMMV. > > So you know what? If I ever lose my boot and can't grub2-fix it in 20 > minutes, I'll try LILO. > > I liked Grub1 better than LILO because Grub understands ext[2|3|4], so > you don't need to do all the recursive thinking and the weird jails to > install Grub, and having a boot file change its sector doesn't remove > your bootability, really, LILO was pretty predictable once you really > understood it. > > You know, I have a bunch of too-tiny disks hanging around, and my > intent was to take them out to the driveway and do my 24 oz hammer > drive-wipe on them. Instead, I think I'll take a page from your book, > and use those drives for nothing but / and /boot and maybe /usr, and > use a modern >1TB drive for the rest, and then I can use LILO. > > > > > I guess that there are other boot loaders (able to work on ext* file > > systems, of course) too around, but I do not know them. > > Most can't understand EFI boot, which removes them from contention for > a lot of jobs. The booter meant for booting floppies and CDs can be > hacked to boot your system, but as I remember when researching it, it > was ugly. > > I don't know how big the current Grub source code is, but maybe I > should just grab it, remove all code bestowing "pretty", get rid of > grub.d and just have everything in grub.conf, and call it SimpleGrub. To > paraphrase Henry Ford, "SimpleGrub is available in any color scheme you > want, as long as you want white text on black background." > > Thanks for the great suggestion. I'm going to use it just as soon as I > get a chance. > > SteveT > > Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/ > Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140630105341.65ca9...@mydesq2.domain.cxm > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140630150632.ga5...@darac.org.uk