On 1 June 2014 03:05, Gary Dale <garyd...@torfree.net> wrote:
> On 31/05/14 12:43 PM, William Unruh wrote:
>>
>> In linux.debian.user, you wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm running Debian/Jessie on an AMD64 system using KDE. My system
>>> periodically grinds to a halt for a minute or so then resumes as if
>>> nothing had happened. This only happens when I'm running KDE. Gnome and
>>> xfce work properly, even with the same applications open.
>>>
>>> I recently installed Gkrellm (using default settings) to see what is
>>> happening when my system grinds to a halt. The only unusual part I see
>>> in it is that the procs box has the brown line climbing to the top of
>>> the chart.  Interestingly, the slope of the brown line continues
>>> throughout the slowdown, which suggests that whatever it is measuring is
>>> continuing to increase.
>>
>> That is the number of processes that are running
>> The blue/green things there are how many forks there are within some
>> process.
>
> Possibly not. Sorry, I'm actually using the "prev" theme, not the default
> one (right-click on the header, select theme | prev). This shows the number
> of procs as a number. The number remains fairly steady over time. Under xfce
> (which I am currently using - this KDE problem is just too annoying), the
> (proc) brown line floats around a bit while the blue chart shows lots of
> spikes. Under KDE, the brown line goes well above the blue spikes. On the
> disk chart, the brown and blue charts show spikes in xcfe but jump to a
> solid high level under KDE during the slowdown - although I do have one
> saved screenshot where the disk activity shows a high number but the brown
> and blue charts are both at a low level.

My interest in reading and helping with the specifics of your problem
pretty much evaporated when you persist in using "brown" and "blue" as
identifiers, even after you realise that the colors change depending
on the particular theme you are using. I think you are more likely to
receive help if you make the effort to learn what all the gkrellm
plots represent and present your problem in those terms instead of
talking about the pretty colors. That will both improve your
understanding of what is happening, and make it easier for people to
help you.

If you right-click on the proc plot you can discover that one curve is
"load" and the other is "forks". The fact that one may or may not be
above the other is irrelevant because they both autoscale
independently.

In the gkrellm configuration for the proc builtin, you can read the
info tab that explains more about that. Also in the setup of the proc
builtin I have entered this format string
\w1000\e$p\f procs\w1000\e$l\f load\n\e$u\f users\w1000\e$f\f forks

It gives more information, but nowhere near what running 'top' offers.
I guess that the gkrellm curve you care about is "load", so you
probably need to look at the "load average" numbers in top. Searching
for information on this will find useful links like these:

https://www.linux.com/component/content/article/174-tutorials/42048-uncover-the-meaning-of-tops-statistics

http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9001

Also 'iotop' can tell you what process is doing disk read/writes, this
might be helpful if you feel that the slowdown is correlated with some
process that is disk-intensive.

Once you have the process ID numbers, you can use a tool like 'pstree
-p' to better see what initiates the offending process.

I have no idea about KDE.


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