On 19/05/14 14:01, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 5/18/2014 9:47 PM, Paul E Condon wrote: >> On 20140518_2131-0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >>> On 5/18/2014 6:39 PM, The Wanderer wrote: >>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>> Hash: SHA512 >>>> >>>> On 05/18/2014 05:49 PM, Tom H wrote: >>>> >>>>> You seem to have an issue with copyrights, and are venting about DRM >>>>> because it enables copyright holders. >>>> >>>> DRM doesn't just "enable copyright holders". >>>> >>>> Copyright law restricts what people are allowed to do. >>>> >>>> DRM restricts what people are *able* to do. >>>> >>>> When the copyright on something expires (not that that ever happens >>>> nowadays), it enters the public domain, and people are allowed to copy >>>> and redistribute it as much as they care to. This is, in fact, the goal >>>> and the purpose of copyright, at least in USA law. >>>> >>> >>> Copyrights last a long time, depending on the laws of the country >>> under which the item is copyrighted. But typically it is either 75 >>> years from the original copyright, or 75 years after the death of the >>> owner (author) of the copyrighted material. Both are much longer >>> than the Internet has existed. >>> >>>> If the copyright on something restricted by DRM were to expire, and the >>>> DRM were still effective (or if breaking it were forbidden, e.g. by >>>> anti-circumvention laws), then although people would be *allowed* to >>>> copy and redistribute it at will, they would still not be *able* to do >>>> so, without permission from whoever controls the DRM - which would, >>>> likely, be the former holder of the copyright. >>>> >>>> There's more, but that should do as a first point. Objections to DRM go >>>> far beyond just objections to copyright. >>>> >>> >>> Please show an example where that has occurred. >> >> Please show an example of a digital recording that was copyrighted 75 yrs >> ago. It is a silly request, I know. But no less silly than yours. > > Not silly at all. But there are may of them. The works of Shakespeare, > among others, are much older than 75 years, and have now entered the > public domain. And they have been digitized. > > Jerry
A more relevant request: how about an example of a digital (or any) recording that was released _with_DRM_ for which the copyright has now lapsed? Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5379c17d.5010...@walnut.gen.nz
