On 5/19/14, Lee Winter <lee.j.i.win...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Gary Dale <garyd...@torfree.net> wrote: >> On 18/05/14 01:49 PM, Lee Winter wrote: >> On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Gary Dale >> <garyd...@torfree.net<mailto: >>> garyd...@torfree.net>> wrote: >>> >>> So freedom from doesn't include freedom from DRM? >>> >>> >>> Of course you are free from DRM. Just don't buy/install content that is >>> restricted by DRM. >>> >>> Unfortunately the DMCA and its international clones prohibit me >>> from accessing DRM except by methods provided by the content owner. >>> >>> >>> Yeah. That is _their_ freedom in action. They are perfectly free to be >>> as stupid as they want. >>> >>> I am not free to use my own implementation through reverse >>> engineering, etc.. >>> >>> >>> Think of the DRM as part of their packaging. You aren't free to dictate >>> to them (thus limiting their freedom) that they have to ship to you in >>> green-qualified, 100% recycled, non-climate-harming bubble- wrap either. >>> >>> Don't re-implement DRM, just find the loopholes in it and use them. Or >>> exercise your freedom to choose another content vendor and tell the DRM >>> people about it in excruciating detail. Whining about DRM is both >>> unsavory >>> and unsatisfying. >>> >>> You aren't free to ignore the consequences of attempting to ignore the >>> law of gravity. Whose "fault" is that? >>> >>> Lee Winter >>> Nashua, New Hampshire (Live Free or Die) >>> United States of America >>> >>> >>> If packaging prevents me from using a product for a purpose that I am >> legally entitled to use it for then I have a right to demand that the >> packaging be changed. > > > Correct. Andyou can demand that all day long from the content providers > who use DRM. But your demands are just that: requests. Noeither you nor > anyone else has the authority to _force_ them to accept andcomply with your > demands. > > More importantly, you are not legally entitled to use the product in ways > other than the provider permits. Like Micros~1, they can require that you > hold your mouth a certain way. Facing that requirement you are not free to > violate it.
Actually you are free to violate it. It's the consequences that the other party to the implied|whatever contract, may bring upon you, that you are thereafter free to handle as you so choose (ignore and suffer, pay a lawyer and suffer, present for yourself in court if the matter goes to court, and suffer research and document preparation sufferance cost). But hey, try tellin that to Jerry :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/caosgnsqdvprtyhs_uguaa4tud2snbtlhwhkxw1ueemt8wsq...@mail.gmail.com
