On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Brian <a...@cityscape.co.uk> wrote:
> On Sun 15 Dec 2013 at 14:03:36 +0000, Tom H wrote:
>> On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Brian <a...@cityscape.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On Fri 13 Dec 2013 at 11:38:31 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>>>> On Jo, 12 dec 13, 20:00:44, Brian wrote:


>>>>> Debian doesn't have deadlines. You'll have to wait. Think in terms of
>>>>> a couple of years for a decision to be made.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think so. A timeline has not been decided yet, but it is my
>>>> understanding that a decision is definitely wanted for Jessie and there
>>>> is already less than a year until freeze.
>>>
>>> What difference does it make whether the decision is made before or
>>> after the freeze?
>>
>> If it's made after the freeze, sysvinit wil be the default  init
>> system in Debian 8.
>
> The goal to have native systemd support in every package with sysv
> scripts (if accepted) and a decision on a new init system may be
> related, but only the first is linked to the time of the freeze. My
> 'couple of years' might have been spurious but, considering the stated
> goal might only be realised a day before the freeze (or not at all),
> the merit of putting a focus on a decision date as pre-freeze isn't
> clear.

There's no relationship between Debian choosing a default init system
and having native systemd support in every package that has a sysvinit
script.

So, as I said up-thread, should the choice be systemd or upstart, the
earlier that a decision is taken, the better in order to iron out any
problems.


> Even if the decision was made in February/March/April would this imply
> going into Jessie with a new init system is a realistic possibility?

Why not?

Have you tried systemd or upstart in testing or sid?


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