By the way, if you never assembled a computer, you should take a look at
Carey Holzman videos on youtube. For example,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCohS0guaDE  He's a little long winded for
my taste, but he has videos that walk you through the whole process from
start to finish. Those were the videos I used to guide me through my build.

Best,
Antonio


On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 8:00 AM, ken <geb...@mousecar.com> wrote:

> Jen,
>
> First, congratulations on going about this the correct way, i.e.,
> delineating what you want to do with the machine before going shopping.
>  Most people buy a computer first, then try to do things with it that the
> machine will do only poorly, if at all.
>
> Next, though I admire your enterprise in wanting to build your own
> machine, I hope you aren't too wedded to the idea.  I've gainfully worked
> in the computer field since the late '80s, messed around with them pretty
> seriously for many years before that, and started using Linux in 1992.  I
> decided to build my own machine once, and it was a nightmare.  (I should
> inject at this point that at the same time I was building my own PC, at
> work I had a $1.8 million budget to put together an entire UNIX lab
> consisting of over 50 pre-spec'd boxes, with four co-existing networks each
> using entirely different technologies, different UNIX vendors, a SAN, and
> several Windows boxes.  Putting all that together was easier than building
> my own PC at home.)  I did get that PC together eventually and got
> everything working and used it for a lot of years, but my sense of
> satisfaction at the accomplishment was buried under the number of very
> frustrating hours I spent getting the correct and functioning components
> and getting all of them to work together properly.  If you would like to
> learn a lot of deeply technical details that you'll never need to know
> again, if you don't mind spending lots of time on lots of technical
> details, if you don't mind having a few parts left over which you'll never
> use, if you don't mind spending time with vendors who insist that you prove
> to them that the component they sold you is bad, then you might enjoy
> building your own PC.
>
> I'd recommend instead as a general strategy to buy an already-built
> computer... what just about everybody does.  Take your specifications
> (pretty much what you emailed to the list) to your local computer outlet
> and have the salesperson actually write down which machines they sell which
> satisfy those specs.  Alternatively, you could email your specs to an
> online salesperson and have them reply to your email with machines they
> sell which satisfy the specs.
>
> If you can't find a ready-made machine that's what you want, then you'll
> have to fill in the gaps by installing cards in slots.  It should be, for
> example, fairly easy to buy a card which gives you a couple more USB ports.
>  Note though that the card you buy has to match the slot.  This might be
> especially critical if you need to install a second video card.  Don't
> actually buy the machine until you're certain that all the cards you're
> going to need to install will fit-- physically and technically-- into the
> slots on the motherboard.  This goes of course for the RAM too, though this
> is hardly ever as problematic.
>
> Re: gigabit ethernet:  Are all the other nodes on your local networks also
> running this, including your router?  If not, then it's a questionable
> feature.
>
>
> That's enough for now.
> Good luck,
> ken
>
>
>
> On 10/19/2013 02:58 PM Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote:
>
>> My current desktop has been having some issues lately and I think its
>> time to consider replacing it. Ive been having trouble finding exactly
>> what I want, even tho' this is straightforward, so i though I'd ask here
>> to get some advice, maybe even about building my own machine (which Ive
>> never done but am willing to learn).
>>
>> This is to run Wheezy for simple desktop use--web surfing, running home
>> music network, some videos, some coding, but no gaming, no video/sound
>> editing, no real storage needs.
>>
>> I DO want:
>>
>>    Small or smallish form factor (currently using a slim tower),
>> attractive
>>    SSD (small capacity--everything impt is on a NAS elsewhere, i just
>> want the system to run fast)
>>    Ability to have two monitors (currently using VGA and HDMI 'cause
>> that's the ports i have)
>>    Optical drive
>>    Lots of USB ports (3.0 not really necessary but wouldnt hurt I guess)
>>    Gigabit Ethernet
>>    Relatively quiet, energy efficient
>>    8 GB RAM (for future-proofing, don't normally need much)
>>
>> I DON"T want or don't care about:
>>
>>    Massive speed and 16 cores (but want enough that I wont need to
>> replace in a year)
>>    Fancy video card (built-in has always been fine, if I can watch
>> movies that's all i need)
>>    Fancy sound card (I use USB into a DAC for serious things)
>>    Massive mechanical HD
>>
>> When i look at computers from HP or Lenovo, it looks like it costs a
>> fortune to add a SSD (and i dont want to buy a separate one from Crucial
>> and then have the original one in a box on my shelf) and memory. The
>> cheaper machines seem to be worrisomely basic, like in a year they won't
>> be able to run YouTube, and the more expensive ones still need upgrades
>> of SSD and RAM. And in particular the smaller form factors tend to be
>> pretty spendy.
>>
>> But i have literally no idea how to assemble a machine from scratch, and
>> in trying to browse i dont even know how to find a smaller form
>> factor--i cant find an elegant slim case, just huge fancy gaming ones,
>> or dull ugly boxes of various sizes.
>>
>> All advice appreciated, thank you!
>>
>> Jen
>>
>
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