On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Miles Fidelman <mfidel...@meetinghouse.net> wrote: > Joel Rees wrote: >> >> On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 7:11 AM, <berenger.mo...@neutralite.org> wrote: >>> >>> [...] if you think that people are free to >>> give themselves the label they want, so you must accept that other are >>> also >>> free to give the labels they want. >>> Long time ago, I studied the "dark side of computer sciences", and the >>> first >>> things I have learn are that you can not claim to be a hacker, or elite, >>> or... If you do so, then people will name you lamer. You are a hacker if >>> other people recognize you as such. >> >> There is a difference between the three words. >> >> Elite is something that truly elite people do not try to be. Nor do >> they care if they are called such. That's the irony of "l33+". > > > That's kind of a debateable statement. Those who achieve "eliteness" > probably don't care about the lable, but to actually BE "elite" at anything, > you pretty much have to always be seeking that next challenge, and pushing > your knowledge and skills - very few of the "elite" are pure naturals.
Well, yeah, I wasn't intending to imply a lack of work. I had in mind different goals -- trying to be elite for the pride, vs. wanting to be able to a better job just because you care about the job or the people who use your service. (And even there, different people will read "pride" differently.) > It > takes work (or "trying"). [Just check out how many baseballs David Ortiz > swings at during practice. :-)] Definitely. > Just one man's opinion, of course. > > Miles > > > -- > In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. > In practice, there is. .... Yogi Berra -- Joel Rees Be careful where you see conspiracy. Look first in your own heart. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caar43ip2a43uoz-drwq3z43y6ir84-hu5cyywgwd2mduis_...@mail.gmail.com
