On Friday 30 August 2013 11:09:29 Joel Rees wrote: > Sorry about posting this to you off-list, Lisi. I too apologise for therefore reciprocating!
On Friday 30 August 2013 10:51:10 Joel Rees wrote: > On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Lisi Reisz <lisi.re...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Wednesday 21 August 2013 22:37:25 Bob Proulx wrote: > >> All worked perfectly as described. Accented characters are easily > >> input. But then the follow-up came back that they wanted to input the > >> bar characters āēīōū. And I don't see how to input bar characters > >> with the above. > >> > >> Because now I know that specifically they want to input the barred > >> characters āēīōū what would be possible methods to type those in that > >> I should recommend to them? > > > > I cannot even display these characters in oyur email! I get empty boxes. > > This thread would appear to apply only to US keyboards and locales. > > I believe those are the same overbar characters that are often used > for doubled vowels in Japanese in certain "Romanization" > (Latinization) methods. > > Hmm. I looked up the five vowels in question, "āēīōū", on Google and > found several sites mentioning "macron" and finally the switch clicked > in my brain. (Also found an irrelevant reference to the Habsburg > Empire. Heh.) > > Looking up "macron" on wikipedia yields information: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macron > > Odd that Japanese is not mentioned on that page. But, yes, macron > vowels are used in, for example, Hepburn form Rōmaji. I was going to > mention that when this thread started, but I had the idea it might > distract from the OP's real question. > > > You obviously learn Latin differently over there too. I have a degree in > > Latin, and have taught Latin, and have never had to use these characters! > > > > Lisi > > The Wikipedia page does explain a little bit about that. As I said, my display was not showing any of these, and I misuderstood what people were saying that they were! I thought everyone was saying that they are marks that show a mssing part of the word that you have to extrapolate, as happens on Greek Icons. Simply marking a long or short vowel I have frequently come across, but do not regard the marks as being an intrinsic part of the letter; as French accents are, for example.. Rough and smooth breathings are of course, in a sense, a part of the letter, but those were not mentioned. Lisi > On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Joel Rees <joel.r...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Lisi Reisz <lisi.re...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Wednesday 21 August 2013 22:37:25 Bob Proulx wrote: > >>> All worked perfectly as described. Accented characters are easily > >>> input. But then the follow-up came back that they wanted to input the > >>> bar characters āēīōū. And I don't see how to input bar characters > >>> with the above. > >>> > >>> Because now I know that specifically they want to input the barred > >>> characters āēīōū what would be possible methods to type those in that > >>> I should recommend to them? > >> > >> I cannot even display these characters in oyur email! I get empty > >> boxes. This thread would appear to apply only to US keyboards and > >> locales. > > > > I believe those are the same overbar characters that are often used > > for doubled vowels in Japanese in certain "Romanization" > > (Latinization) methods. > > > > Hmm. I looked up the five vowels in question, "āēīōū", on Google and > > found several sites mentioning "macron" and finally the switch clicked > > in my brain. (Also found an irrelevant reference to the Habsburg > > Empire. Heh.) > > > > Looking up "macron" on wikipedia yields information: > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macron > > > > Odd that Japanese is not mentioned on that page. > > Except, it is. Missed that, too. Maybe I'm getting senile. > > > But, yes, macron > > vowels are used in, for example, Hepburn form Rōmaji. I was going to > > mention that when this thread started, but I had the idea it might > > distract from the OP's real question. > > > >> You obviously learn Latin differently over there too. I have a degree > >> in Latin, and have taught Latin, and have never had to use these > >> characters! > >> > >> Lisi > > > > The Wikipedia page does explain a little bit about that. > > > > -- > > Joel Rees > > -- > -- > Joel Rees -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201308301142.12931.lisi.re...@gmail.com
