Hi Zeenan, Yes I did this move an the 'less used' server, not really crash'n'burn but still ok to try yhr move there first.
Yes I used gnome-classic-2D I used minimalist gnome setup, only 1 main-panel on the right, no workspace, no other pannel I have a permenant vnc session on the server (trusted network) and I do most of the tiny things with GUI, else cui for stuff like NW, iscsi, etc... Yes I choose ubuntu as the less disorientating choice after many many years on debian, next chice would have been mint, etc... I don't go xfce because again I have very litle time to customize thing, and learning how to script XFCE is out of my time bufget though I exploded it with vnc on debian :) What I liked with old gnome, was the custom can be done without learning anything, drag drop panels, click on color that suite you, focus follow mouse was trivial, etc.... Well I learn a bit about gconf editor and I am about done on ubuntu... So I wait a bit see if I can stay on debian (my prefered choice for historical reasons) Thanx for your help. Cheers, Phi On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Zenaan Harkness <z...@freedbms.net> wrote: > On 8/27/13, Phi Debian <phi.deb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> I use debian and gnome since well the begining... >> I have it on many nodes, but specially on some server, where many guests >> run. >> I was on squeeze sine the begining of squeeze, and decided to try wheezy. > > > Ubuntu is Debian snapshot, so much of muchness... > > In both cases, GUI is choosable. > > You install server with Unity/Gnome3 ? > > For server, perhaps simpler XFCE4? > > Or add custom repo and install Cinnamon or MATE desktops - there was a > big thread on just that here on debian-user in the last month I > think... > > There are many lightweight window managers, simple and complex > toolbars - just mix and match for a lightweight server gui yes? > > I went to Ubuntu first in 6.04, then 8.04, then never happy to upgrade > from there, so came back to Debian recently (last year), because of > Unity interface I don't like. > > So now I use XFCE4. There are some dissatisfactory things these days. > Gnome2 just worked - and I could customize it in just the way I > wanted. But XFCE with some scripts and things here and there, and it's > acceptable. This is primary workstation. > > For my various servers, I install _no_ gui. All remote admin. > > If I had a physical server with eg VGA console, I would either just go > framebuffer and terminal, or *possibly* xfce. Really, server terminal > should be extremely temporary and brief affair - just enough to get > networking back up when you firetruck up, and get back to your primary > admin workstation. At least, that's how I do things... or would do > things if I had a server with a console :) I keep my server > networking as simple and/ or static as possible though .. to minimise > physical access requirements to server; common sense. > >> All the upgrade went smooth, and all worked like a charm, so thank you >> for all the people who made this possible. >> >> I can cope with the questionable gdm3 and all things around, but doing >> GUI on the rudimentary VGA is not the main purpose of this server, yet >> it worked, so no problem related with HW graphical board FW. >> >> I start a vnc server for my account (vnc4server), and do the setup of >> xstart the various way, the simplest being starting the gnome-session >> in there. >> >> Then right click on top-panel-->property, color setup plain solid, and >> kaboom, your vnc session is no longer available , oh no message >> anybody knows by now, goolge it and it give massive useless solutions. > > Since you are talking server, and VNC, then have you disabled 3D, > disabled effects etc? I don't know, I don't run GUI on servers, but if > I did, that would be first thing I would do, if I for some strange > reason ended up with a "modern" desktop on my server :) > >> I tried all sort of trick givin on the net, rm user account redo (that >> works I can re start a vnc server and connect) yet still panel setup >> crash, I tried all sort of things with dbus, socket, install tons of >> useless packages. > > Did you try different vnc servers? eg tightvncserver? x11vnc? > Did you try different vnc clients? there are a few. > >> Well, desesperate and after loosing a full day on it, I tried ubuntu, >> and it cure. It come with its load of problems too, unity and all that >> jazz, but all is workable around in a hour, going back to gnome >> classic is doable. >> >> So I think it is an adieu for debian It is miserable > > I agree - it would be _very_ miserable day to have to leave Debian. > When I came back last year, it was like coming home to parents for > Christmas after many years away... too many years away.. > >> Well may be this is just the end of an era, may be only .com can >> produce valid OS and .org is fading, sad day. > > Just a bug from sound of it. Probably fixed in a week. If high > importance/ money value servers, then perhaps you could find a > Debian-support contract company? > >> I still have another server to setup, I'll monitor the activity here > > You do have test deployment-equivalent server don't you? Or some test > environment for testing your upgrades? > > Anyway Phi, good luck > Zenaan > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: > http://lists.debian.org/caosgnsrhr8hu6hkzlzam-ekr0k0ajggjdy+deyqbszkeces...@mail.gmail.com > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cajor74hdcryajqk1aqhouhokcte6um-tsu64gjsvxvnmgxz...@mail.gmail.com
