--- ScruLoose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 05:57:15AM -0700, Sidney > Brooks wrote: > > > Filters will not solve the problem. The problem is > > that so much spam is coming in that it overloads > the > > allocated mailbox space and then Yahoo, and I > presume > > other services, refuse to accept more email. > > Of course, if you had actually been _reading_ the > many threads on this > topic recently, you would already know that there > _are_ filtering > methods that work, and work very well. There are > filtering options that > are much better than relying on Yahoo's own filters. > > > A filter > > can divert spam into trash, but trash counts > against > > your quota until you delete it. You can't use the > > "reject sender" option, because the spammers > targeting > > this site change the name of the sender with just > > about every message. > > Sure, if you restrict yourself to using Yahoo's own > filters. > But you can use fetchmail or fechyahoo to > automatically download your > mail as often as you want, in conjunction with > whatever filtering tools > you want to set up on your own machine. > Even if you use _no_ filtering, this eliminates the > "mailbox full" > problem... unless you get enough spam to fill your > hard drive. > > > Allowing some program to judge > > which messages to accept or throw out wont work > either > > because it would reject desired messages that it > > thought looks like spam. > > Personally, I'm prepared to accept the extremely low > false-positive rate > that a well-trained bayesian filter will provide. If > you prefer to > examine _every_ message personally, that's easily > achievable. Default > on most filtering programs is to put suspected spam > into a folder where > you can review it if you want. > > Obviously, these solutions aren't perfect. > Obviously, in a truly > enlightened world, there would be no spammers. But > in the here and now, > filtering strikes me as a better solution than > sitting around > whining about how "the spammers have won". You may > be beaten, but I'm > still fighting, and easily holding my own. > > Cheers > --
I am not a hero and when I do fight, it has to be for a worthy cause. The simple solution that I have already taken is to set up a different Yahoo account. I hate to give up an email address that I have had for some eight years, but I can think of it as the price for the useful advice that I have gotten here. There is nothing wrong with Yahoo. The problem is that this site posts addresses of the people sending messages. I do not blame the master of this site for not anticipating the problem, but I will blame him if he refuses to take the obvious action. Debian is hard enough to learn to use without losing the help available here. sidney > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]