On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 04:46:49PM +0100, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
> hi,
>  some important packages are missing in the Debian official repositories
>  cinelerra, avidemux
>  the offical recommendations say:
> 
>    Please do also consider to entirely remove unofficial third-party
>    repositories from your /etc/apt/sources.list file. The few more features
>    added to the packages provided there do often not compensate for the
>    breakage they may cause.
> 
>  So, how am I supposed  to get these packages. The only way I see
>  is compilation, but is there any chance that they will be officially
>  supported by Debian one day?
> 
I recommend you use the third-party deb-multimedia repository for those
packages.  I have them both installed from that repo and I've never had
any problems.  In fact, that repo has never given me any problems.  Of
course I'd prefer if I could get everything I want from Debian's main
repo, but currently that's not possible for me.

One thing to watch for is ffmpeg vs libav.  deb-multimedia supplies
ffmpeg, while Debian's main repo supplies libav.  Libav is a fork of
ffmpeg, and it uses the ffmpeg name in one of its files.  So the two
cannot coexist on the same system.

Here is some background on the politics of that fork, and the politics
between Debian's multimedia team and the third-party deb-multimedia
repo.  This is how I see it.  I'm sure others may have different
opinions. 

A group of the ffmpeg developers attempted to "take over" from the
ffmpeg project leader.  Apparently they felt that was necessary for the
good of the project.  I can't confirm or deny that, because I don't know
the history.  The takeover essentially failed.  Some time later, the same 
group (more or less) of developers forked ffmpeg to libav.  FFmpeg 
continues to be developed by the original project leader (and maybe he 
has helpers, I don't know).

Some/most/all (I'm not sure which) of those developers are also Debian 
developers on the Debian Multimedia team.  They replaced ffmpeg with
libav in debian main.  The third-party deb-multimedia repo continues to
supply ffmpeg.  Shortly after the fork, there seemed to be renewed
interest among the Debian developers in complaining and discrediting the
deb-multimedia repo.  My take on it is they don't like that he continues
to support ffmpeg.  They really want ffmpeg to wither away and die, but
so far that doesn't seem to be happening.

It's an unfortunate situation because it's a duplication of resources
between the two projects.  And in Debian, at least, it is not possible
to use both libav and ffmpeg.  And since they are separate projects now,
each has some unique features that make it better in certain situations.
It has also led to what looks to me like a propaganda campaign against
the third-party deb-multimedia repo, which has a very good reputation
for quality.

-Rob


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