Am 23.12.2012 22:19, schrieb berenger.mo...@neutralite.org:
Le 23.12.2012 20:48, Thore a écrit :
Am 23.12.2012 20:45, schrieb Thore:
Am 23.12.2012 17:32, schrieb berenger.mo...@neutralite.org:
Both entrys have a pae, my question is: can (and how can) I remove
the ...-2-686-pae entry?
As many other people said, your usual package manager is able to
remove kernels. Aptitude will warn you if you are removing the last
kernel of your system. And it will update grub accordingly. As
others I guess :)
2:My Network Manager is not working right.
First the Wlan wasn't working I installed the driver and it worked.
The next day I restarted and nothing worked.
I needed a few time to set up eth0.
Over eth0 I can use Iceweasel and aptitude but the networkmanager
(kde) doesn't accepts the connection. Because of this Pidgin is not
working.
wlan isn't working too.
eth0 and wlan0 are two different things. wlan usually means,
wireless, and wireless have often closed source drivers. So with
debian, you will need to enable them by yourself. Wiki and
internet are full of informations about that, but, in short,
enable contrib and non-free repo in your /etc/apt/sources.list,
know your hardware with $lspci or $lsusb and you should have
enough informations to discover what you need to install.
Eth0 is usually working fine with generic, and free, versions,
this is why it works. If your network manager gives you
problem... the solution I took until now, which is not advised,
is to only enable the kind of network you need.
In few words, this consist about using commands like #ifdown
<eth0/wlan0>, #ifdown <eth0/wlan0> and editing the file named
/etc/network/interfaces.
Of course, this is not an automated solution, but it avoids the
use of any software taking decisions for you.
I set up wlan0 with the iwifi driver it worked fine, but than i
shutdown the laptop and nothing worked anymore. Than I set up eth0 (I
can use the www with iceweasel or aptitude) but wlan0 doesn't works
and the network manager meant I have no connection, I think thats the
reason, why pidgin isn't connecting.
The way I'm doing it:
I use #ifdown <network> and #ifup <network> to be sure to have only
one up at a time, and I use #vim /etc/network/interfaces to add
wireless networks, by adding following lines:
wpa-ssid <router-name>
wpa-key <the key :) >
It's not exactly something I would recommend to users, but it works
well. I simply should do a script to switch wireless networks in
the interfaces file, because commenting and decommenting lines is
boring :)
About your question to switch to Ubuntu, well... if you do not want
to spend time maybe it is better, I do not know, I tried it many
years ago but did not liked it. But I love to tinker, so it was
obvious that I could not like a distro where it is hard to do fun
things like destroying the system :D
If you stay with Debian, in my opinion, debian testing (Wheezy,
IIRC, never sure of the distro names...) is good enough for a
normal user. For production servers, I would prefer the stable Debian.
Thank you for your answer,
you are right a system which is hard to destroy is boring.
I will try it out with an 64bit system,
maybe it works with it,if not there would be ubuntu.
My server isn't an production server and when it could be used as an
production Server wheezy is stable.
So I will start the installation now and hopefully the kernels are away
regards
Thore
Sorry I forgot to ask which desktop enviroment is better for killing
the system ;-)
Hehehe... I think the best DE to destroy the system is
x-terminal-emulator with the su command :)
I've destroyed and repaired my debian often enough to know that when
you love tinkering the best DE you can find is the one you will build.
To do that, you just need a window manager and something to run
commands. This last software can be a terminal emulator, a menu
software, or, more often, both of them, a text editor and a package
manager. When you have them, find a web browser, and a software for
each action you are doing on your computer. Usually, peoples like to
have a file manager, a music player, a network manager, plus various
tools according to what they are doing (in my situation, a C++
compiler, a version manager for source code, a resource monitor, a
pdf-viewer, an image editor - xpaint is nice, but could be more user
friendly with a single window - a calculator...). Thinking about that,
a DE is not so many softwares... I wonder if there is a guide to
"build" our own DE. Could be a nice thing to write!
For your kernel problem, just try to start aptitude in a terminal,
without argument, and search for "linux-image-" and you will be able
to remove kernels you do not want.
Thinking about destroying the system... I remember I said I would
install gentoo during my holydays ... or build a kernel from scratch,
that's a nice exercise too. I love holidays :D
Yes therefore holidays would be nice.
I installed debian in 64 bit with GNOME now was very/extremely schocked
and install now kde.
I needed 20 minutes to shut down the system. I didn't found the button
and needed 10 minutes more for the terminal shutdown (i didn't found the
terminal)
This was the worst experience I've ever made.
but the entrys were away and the networkmanager worked. I put the
firmware for the wlan card on an USB Drive and the system found them.
So hopefully my networks problems would be away under kde.
If not i ask again.
for a kernel my time and my experience are not enough. I had enough
problems with my server.
regards
Thore
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