On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 10:32:20PM -0800, Marc Shapiro wrote: > On 12/14/2012 05:30 AM, Rob Owens wrote: > >On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 12:40:03PM +0000, Jon Dowland wrote: > >>On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:35:59AM +0100, phi debian wrote: > >>>So my question, does next release of debian will be poluted with gnome3, > >>>are will we have a choice? Even a dangled gnome2 would be good for me. > >>GNOME2 will be gone, GNOME3 will be present, and the fallback mode has > >>been renamed "GNOME classic" and is available as a desktop session (that > >>is, you can select it from the login prompt). So, if you can customize > >>the fallback/classic mode to your tastes, which may involve writing or > >>using extensions, great. If not, you could consider one of the other > >>desktop environments in Debian, or you could use the 3rd party "MATE" > >>packages which are a fork of the GNOME2 codebase. There's some chance > >>that MATE will be officially packaged in Debian for the release after > >>next, but not for wheezy. Finally, there's another effort called > >>"Cinnamon" which tries to give a GNOME2-like experience on top of > >>GNOME3 technology, again that is not packaged officially for the next > >>release of Debian, but is available third party, and might be in the > >>release after next. > >> > >Cinnamon is actually in Sid right now. I haven't tried it, so I don't > >know how well it works. > > > >I use Fluxbox, and I like it a lot. Honestly, I don't know why so many > >people feel like they need to use a full desktop environment. To go to > >a straight window manager, I had a very short learning curve. Basically > >all I had to do was learn how to access the menu, and learn how to start > >applications automatically on login (nm-applet, for example). > > > >-Rob > I used to use fvwm. Then I had a hard disk crash. Fortunately, I > was able to recover most of my data, but I did need to reinstall on > a new drive. That is when I installed gnome2. It made things > easier for my wife and daughter. We were all in agreement, however, > that we needed to find a replacement before installing Wheezy, > because gnome3 was just not going to work for us. I have been > running lxde on my laptop and I installed it on the desktop when I > replaced my old box. I haven't had any complaints from my daughter, > so it is staying that way. > I agree that a desktop environment is easier to customize. If your users can't stop customizing, then they probably won't want a plain window manager. But if they just want to "do work", a window manager is fine.
I tried gnome 3 shell on Wheezy the other day, as well as gnome classic on Wheezy. I didn't think gnome 3 shell was all that bad, although I won't be using it. It was too slow on my computer. I can see how a compulsive customizer might be annoyed with it, since things have changed and it seems some functionality has been removed. But for me it was ok except for the slowness (probably due to not having 3d acceleration on my laptop). Gnome classic, on the other hand, seemed pretty close the gnome 2. The only annoyance I saw had to do with adding launchers to the panel. You can no longer right-click on an application in the menu, and choose "add to panel". You have to right-click on the panel, while holding down the Alt key, and add your launchers that way. Gnome classic was quite a bit faster than Gnome 3 shell on my laptop. I've used LXDE before and it seems pretty good. I typically install that for people who have old/slow computers. -Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121215151814.gc18...@aurora.owens.net
