On Sat, 3 Nov 2012, Bret Busby wrote:
Hello.
I am running (or, now, kind of running) Debian 6.0.x AMD64 version.
I have done a system update in the last day or so, and, possibly because of
that, the system has become mostly unusable.
Upon shutting down konqueror, all of the saved bookmarks were deleted.
With rebooting, rebooting has been consuming about 200MB of disk space on
each reboot, leaving me now with somewhere around 2-6MB of free disk space
(it changes on each reboot), and, for some strange reason, trying to run a
web browser (not saving anything to disk, just trying to run a web browser)
writes stuff to the disk, or, otherwise uses up free disk space, so that it
runs out of free disk space and crashes the system.
Now, with an AMD64 system, with 8GB of RAM, and tens of GB of disk capacity
(in the home partition), all that it is usable for, is running alpine.
What is happening, that Debian, after the update, is wrecking the system?
It is as if Debian 6 has assumed the nature of the "experimental" version of
Debian - tending to break the system.
--
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
..............
"So once you do know what the question actually is,
you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
"The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
A Trilogy In Four Parts",
written by Douglas Adams,
published by Pan Books, 1992
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It has occurred to me, that this ivolves multiple problems or symptoms.
1. The operating system and/or the web browsers ignore the swap
partition, and simply progressivley consume the RAM, until none is left
free to be used, causing system crashes. No known reason is shown for
this, and checks have been done, and all of the settings appear to be
correct for causing swapping to occur; it simply does not occur, and the
system progresively runs out of memory, until it crashes.
2. The web browsers (konqueror and opera) progressively consume
available free disk space in the home partition, until that runs out,
regardless of whether I am saving any files. The malware javascript is
enabled in opera, because I need it for an online application, and it is
disabled in konqueror and the other web browsers that I have used (but,
that I have not used for some months now, such as iceape and iceweasel
and epihphany, due to the overall system instability).
3. When I used the kill button "Click on the application window to
cause the application to quit", after rebooting, if that is done to
opera and/or konqueror, hundreds of megabytes of disk space in the home
directory, are freed.
4. When I last used that to kill opera, on reloading opera, it did not
eith restart as the crashed session, or, offer an option to do that
(software appears to be erratic in this and other things).
5. When I closed down konqueror, with an orderly closure, it deleted all
of my bookmarks within it.
6. After having killed opera as described in 3 above, about 200MB of
disk space in the /home partition, was freed, that showed as being free
after rebooting the system.
7. However, after rebooting after 6 above, opera was behaving as if it
was running in about 640kB of RAM - it was unresponsive, so, the system
was rebooted, and the 200MB of free space in the home partrition, was
consumed by the reboot.
8. I do not know how to cause space consumed by downloaded files, in a
system update, to be automatically freed, by purging either the files
downloaded in the system update, and or any files or other disk space
consumed by the update process, or, the predecessors of the files
downloaded in the sytem update. I assume (but am not sure) that they
occupy space within the Downloads directory within the home partition.
9. Thus, the system (Debian 6.0.x AMD64 version) appears to have
degenerated to the status of the Debian version that is named "Sid", or,
experimental - said to be unreliable, erratic, unstable, and, likely
harmful.
9. This AMD64 system with 8GB of RAM and tens of GB in the home
partition, is now giving me about the same performance as my XT clone
(it has an NEC V22 processor) running DOS (I think it was last DR-DOS 5
or 6, but I am not sure)used to give; all that I can now run on this
system, is alpine, and the download speed is about the same, even
though, before this trouble, I could get download speeds of about 1MB
per second, on this system .I would probably be using my XT clone, but
it is kind of buried under other junk, and, the HDD (10MB with a stepper
motor) ended up needing to be kickstarted every time that the system was
booted.
--
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
..............
"So once you do know what the question actually is,
you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
"The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
A Trilogy In Four Parts",
written by Douglas Adams,
published by Pan Books, 1992
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