On Sat, September 15, 2012 5:33 am, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 15 sep 12, 04:36:36, Weaver wrote: >> >> Partitioning: Entire disc selected. Separate /home selected. >> In my opinion, the third option of separate /usr, /var, /tmp/ /home here >> are wasted, as anybody that is going for that sort of option set are >> probably going to go for the more fine-grained approach the 'Expert >> Install' option caters to. > > Agreed. How about a wishlist bug against d-i?
Yes, but at this stage, I'm just looking for opinions. I don't want to waste developer's time with my imperfections. People can kill me here before I do any damage. > >> Computed Partitions. >> >> / = 10 GB – Bootable ext3 – I would probably go for a little more than >> this, because the newbie appetite wants to try out everything! koffice, >> libreoffice, calligra, gnomeoffice along with gnumeric and abiword to >> see >> what they look like and make a preferred selection. Likewise with every >> single video player, music player, browser and mail client. They'll pare >> everything down after the first six months when decisions are made, but >> they need plenty of room initially. I'd be looking at at least 12.5 GB. >> Worked out on the percentage of drive space, of course. > > Is this a guess or did you actually calculate the installed size? Neither. It's from personal experience. The other two installs are this one I'm posting on = 2778 installed packages, which was about 1000 more than that before I pared it down - I have a lot of font packages and editors for writing. And a GUI-less system of just over 800 packages. I remember I wanted to check out everything. Find out which was best. Resentment at being tied to Gnome. Annoyed with segmentation faults with KDE. Recognising that, to a large extent, XFCE was just a GUI for Gnome. Now for a graphically-based system I have a selection from all of them, usually tied together with Enlightenment. Actually, with LXDE with Openbox over the top and fbpanel, at present > >> /swap = 4.1 GB which fits nicely with the 2 GB of RAM. >> /home =105.9 GB ext3. >> >> I wondered at ext3 being the default, instead of ext4, but that may well >> be just the time slot that squeeze fitted into. > > This and the fact that Debian people are quite conservative when > switching defaults. I hope it is (going to be) changed for wheezy, > didn't check though. > > [...] > >> Here's an example – rough, not at all polished: >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Partitioning >> Partitions are allocated areas on your hard drive, set by the installer, >> where different parts of your working operating system reside. > > I'd remove "set by the installer" since the user might have done that. > >> The root (/) partition is where all your programmes will be installed >> and >> must be bootable so that your operating system is accessible after >> installation. > > Ok. > >> The swap partition is an area on your hard drive where process exchange >> takes place when your system is working. It is the equivalent of >> 'Virtual >> Memory'. > > Still very technical, and why the reference to Virtual Memory? Because they have probably come from a Windows environment and may identify with that concept. Let me > take a shot: > > The swap partition is a scratch area on your hard drive used by the > operating system. Yes, but they may wonder what 'a scratch area' is. > >> The home (/home) partition is where all your personal and professional >> data will be kept. > > Ok. > >> By selecting any of these – arrow keys and 'enter', you can adjust the >> size of them to suit your particular needs. This automatic partitioning >> would probably be most suitable for initial use, however you will still >> be >> able to adjust their size in the future if needed. >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Mmm, the last sentence seems to imply that re-partitioning is easy, > which it is not, especially in such a setup. As said before, I'd rather > go for all in one partition, which solves the / size problem above and > won't require repartitioning later. Yes, it's just a way of making the original annotation more accessible. > >> There is absolutely no need to get into $ cat /etc/fstab at this point >> in >> time. Or separate /boot partitions, or any other complexity. They'll get >> to that later. What is required now is to convey the simplest of >> pictures, >> but still convey the required information and only the required >> information. This provides information, orientation and a jumping off >> point for further advancement, without the confusion born of complexity. > > Agreed. > >> So, onward we go.... > > [...] > >> There might, from a newbie perspective, need to be a short note at the >> proxy configure stage. What's a proxy? > > I'd go for an addition like: > > "If you don't know what a proxy is just leave this blank". Yep! Regards, Weaver -- "It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government." -- Thomas Paine -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4900862582002ed466a631b64d567bc0.squir...@fruiteater.riseup.net
