Chris Bannister <cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz> writes: > On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 05:26:09PM +0200, lee wrote: >> "The administrator installed disapproved software. Since then, many > > No. That would have got you a smack over the hand with a ruler. :)
Then how do you say that? >> users have had trouble with the system and the administrator became >> deprecated." > > Doesn't seem right. People don't become deprecated, not in common usage > anyway. Ok, let's say "users had trouble with the system and (using) the system became deprecated." and consider that it is not the best possible example, so give it some leeway. >> "Disapproved" would now be an adjective, same as "deprecated". In both >> cases, "deprecated" is an adjective. You could also say "... and >> deprecated the administrator". What would that be? > > That would be wrong, and another smack over the hand with a ruler, for > arguing with the "teacher" (not me, just imagining you sitting in your > chair with teacher standing over you with ruler.) That teacher (not you) would find their ruler shoved up somewhere where they probably won't like it very much because I don't let myself being treated like that. I'm just trying to understand something. If I was arguing, I might say that warding something off by prayer seems more likely to work with humans than with machines or systems, so people *can* be deprecated (much easier than machines or systems). It just depends on the people whom you try to deprecate ... (Teacher might then say I'm a smartass. I could live with that because I already know that I'm smarter than the teacher:) >> Are you saying it's not possible to say that "the administrator >> installed disapproved software" because "disapproved" cannot be used as >> an adjective? > > Yes. Hm ok, so it's "deprecated software"? Is there a direct synonym for "deprecated"? Hmm ... " 'disapproved of' software" maybe? Or "discommended software"?[1] [1]: http://thesaurus.com/browse/deprecate >> How do you call it when software or an administrator is being >> deprecated, i. e. the process of deprecating something/making something > > I can only think of the word "redundant" (surplus to requirements) at > the moment. e.g. The administrator was made redundant because of > restructuring. Hm I wouldn't use that because it has a very different meaning for me which goes more into the direction of [2]. Besides [2], the point with redundancy is that it can be assumed as something actually useful to decide whether a judgement is actually true or not. (See the being smarter than the teacher thing as another bad example for redundancy;) So the teacher (administrator) became "superfluous" or "unnecessary" --- which won't be the same as deprecated: He might still be needed. [2]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redundancy_theory_of_truth >> software doesn't make the software deprecated, like someone can >> disapprove of libreoffice, which doesn't mean it's deprecated.) > > True. I'm sure Lisi could explain it better, although it is getting way > off topic. Yeah, I know --- I find it very interesting, though :) -- Debian testing amd64 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/877grxu864....@yun.yagibdah.de