Good time of the day, Camaleón.
You wrote: > > Then, Ekiga - diver versions + other versions of sound software? > > Just ideas. > > Yes, it can be a mix of all them. > > Whatever, I find it very close to a regression but of course to prove > that point I would have to do the same testing in the same machine :-) That's what I was about to suggest. > >> 3 on 3 fails. Wow. I love Linux >:-P > > > > Yet I really love Linux! Just more work needed, more > > packagers/testers. May, w/ a time I will maintain a package but not > > for now. But I try to report bugs when notice, though it seems a > > problem: where to send - often maintainers would not accept it > > advicing me to talk to developers directly (in my opinion it should > > not be - because sometimes registration is required for that - that > > the maintainers for sure have whereas common users - don't). Report > > just will be lost, and nobody will benefit from it. - It is the > > rising power of free software, being put down for diver reasons - > > like that simple denial. > > Reporting bugs is (more times than I like) discouraging but I find it > a must to make things better, regardless the result of the report > (fixed/ won't fix/closed/forwarded upstream...). Right, also "people come, people go" and therefore we never know what their reflection will be. So, it is worth to try. > >> > And I saw no more soft phones in Debian from repo.s. > >> > >> There are more (yate, twinkle) but sadly not available for > >> wheezy :-( > > > > Out of repos/debian security testing is an issue for me here. - > > Unless I make a VM where I will use all such programs from diver > > sources. > > That's being a bit paranoic but won't convince to do otherwise. > > For instance, I do trust Mozilla, LibreOffice repositories (or even > the kernel sources) as much as I trust Debian's. Of course, I would > not install a single file in my main system coming from a unknown/ > unreferenced site that provides a ".deb" :-) I'm really a bit (lot? :o) paranoid - but it comes from sad experience. > >> > So far, ekiga is the best option for me, and I would say, most > >> > comfortable its GUI comparing w/ the above. > >> > >> Errr, yes. Although I find more confortable/easy to use the old > >> interface. > > > > I didn't see those. What do You miss in new version? > > I miss the way the main window shows the elements, now it's > confusing. I think I get less information than using the old Ekiga. Yes, I got same feelings - though I'm new to it - because I think there are not enough options to choose from or to configure, and it misses log - to observe connections. (..) > Maybe is that I'm confusing the terms, let's see... Yes, I can have a > normal conversation within Ekiga (I hear the called person's voice > and he can hear mine and also can take an "echo" test, sound is > cranky and distorted but it works) what does not work is Ekiga or > gnome-sound- recorder outputing my one voice from my system speakers > while I speak. OK, now it's clear. So echo service proves ability to be heard by called person! > In other words: I can't play karaoke but still can have a > conversation using a softphone :-) OK. I got it, thanks. (..) > >> > OK. Thank You. I just would not install software from non-debian > >> > repo.s. In case I will move it to a VM, then I will try it, > >> > though do not know when. > >> > >> Fair, but the problem is that not all the packages are available > >> for all of the flavours :-( > > > > I know, that's why I'll keep fighting w/ Ekiga - as the best option > > for Debian currently - the most developed out of Debian available. > > Until new phones come into Debian. Or much time will pass and I > > will maintain one in Debian. > > Yes, but when something fails is time to jump (or at least consider) > another options. Odd thing is that Ekiga (the upstream package) is at > 3.2.7, the same version it had Squeeze and Wheezy/Sid... there have > been no updates for a couple of years? :-? OK. Good advice. I will think what to do - probably, I will try the ones You suggested in a VM - will see how well sound card will work there. I think let's finish here - as we have considered all available options, seems to me. I thank You very much for You precious to me help! Sthu. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5034cb48.046c980a.4f98.5...@mx.google.com