On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:49:53 +0100, Brian wrote:

> On Sat 28 Jul 2012 at 10:58:02 +0000, Camaleón wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 18:26:05 +0100, Brian wrote:
>> 
>> > http://www.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/review/1956699/review-hp-laserjet-cp4525-colour-printer
>> 
>> Uh, what is this link for? :-?
> 
> You didn't read all of the content? 

What content? The advertizing? Of course not, unless you pointed me to 
the interesting part.

> It matches your "1/". Here is another one:
> 
>    
> http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06b/18972-18972-3328060-15077-236268-3965798-3965802-3965808.html?dnr=1

Ah, you must be referring to:

***
Print languages, standard HP PCL 6; HP PCL 5c; HP postscript level 3 
emulation; direct PDF printing v 1.4
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
***

But I already knew there are printers in the market that direct print to 
PDF (as well as options 2/ and 3/ are also possible). I did not asked 
about that. I asked what *you* were speaking/referring to when you talked 
about "PDF printers".

Side note: do you known what's the required/recommended memory to 
directly print to PDF? And what happens with PDF v1.7, will you have to 
buy a new module for supporting the new upcoming standards? >:-)

> [Snip]
> 
>> Anyway, you did not respond to the question about what you consider to
>> be a PDF printer.
> 
> I rather think I did. Twice now.

I think you didn't. You only sent a link with no further indication, 
that's not a valid answer for a "select the one that applies (1/, 2/ or 3/)
test ;-)

>> > Moving to a PDF workflow was a considered decision based on technical
>> > considerations.
>> 
>> You mean the above mentioned "four easies"? >:-P
> 
> No. I mean taking the link you already have
> 
>    
> http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting/pdfasstandardprintjobformat
>    ,

There are no technical reasons (neither what's the real gain for users) 
listed there but how to start using the new filter facility within CUPS.

> reading it as a whole and following up on how the system was developed.
> The third and fourth paragraphs of Roger Leigh's post might help with
> any searches.

I've found another doc comparing for options:

http://www.adobe.com/print/features/psvspdf/

But I'd say the author is not "neutral" ;-)

>> > A good deal of the CUPS printing system is now managed directly by
>> > Debian/Ubuntu and not by upstream.
>> 
>> That's good but still dependant of the main CUPS development done by
>> Apple.
> 
> It would have been more accurate if I had mentioned the Linux Foundation
> and OpenPrinting instead of just Debian/Ubuntu.

The main issue still remains: CUPS is Apple's baby.

>> > If you are using Lenny, what do you expect!
>> 
>> I expect to use a solution/system/method (you can call it as you want)
>> that has been tested harshly over the years and has been working okay.
> 
> Some of us have been doing precisely that (using and testing) for three
> or four years. When you get to Squeeze or Wheezy you can join in too.

All my printers support PostScript directly, why should I ignore that fact?

Greetings,

-- 
Camaleón


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