On 29/06/12 17:34, Neal Murphy wrote: (...) > another program running whose sole purpose is to slurp CPU cycles, take up > screen real estate
I'm all for machine efficiency, but I don't find NM to do either of those. On a laptop, I find it sacrifices my human efficiency to /not/ have it. > and make me click-click-click...click-click-click-click to - great description, though :) > find what 'ip addr' would tell me. And if you are running a bunch of VMs, > you've moved beyond the utility of N-M; you do not want it controlling your > network. Yes, I'm learning that this is clearly the case. > You're doing pretty much what I do. I have four bridges (but only 3 NICs: one > bridge goes nowhere) for testing my firewalls (RED/GREEN/PURPLE/ORANGE). I > can > have a number of firewalls running in KVMs, attached to any combination of > four bridges. I can direct Squeeze's default route to any of them or to the > bridge direct to my perimeter F/W. Most of this could be achieved over a virtual network, though, couldn't it? I would use a virtual network for firewall testing. I need real network IPs for using real network resources, e.g. grabbing something off a local server over NFS. > The bridge device (e.g. br0) is a network interface. The NIC is a network > interface. The tap device (e.g. tap0) appears as a network interface to the > VM. A bridge device doesn't need a real NIC to operate. It's perfectly happy > to bridge zero or more taps to itself. The host doesn't need to actively use > a > brX device (with IP address, et al) for it to bridge VMs together. I'm trying to get my head around this. I need to read more on this subject. :) > Kernel- > wise, a bridge device is very similar to a run-of-the-mill 8-port ethernet > switch: it bridges whatever is connected to it. Or it sits idle when it has > no > member devices other than itself. One thing that becomes apparent with (GNU/)Linux is the sheer number of networking options that it's capable of. The ability to simulate complex networks, for instance. Thanks. -- Steve Dowe Warp Universal Limited http://warp2.me/sd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ff1cca8.5010...@warpuniversal.co.uk