On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 12:31 AM, Mark Allums <m...@allums.com> wrote:
> On 6/21/2012 9:58 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
>> Brian wrote:
>>> On Thu 21 Jun 2012 at 13:55:49 +0100, Darac Marjal wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 07:37:52AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:


>>>>> The new install will not accept root password. User password is
>>>>> fine.
>>>>
>>>> That may be intended. I don't think Debian (out of the box) allows root
>>>> to log in at all. Instead, you're expected to log in as an unprivileged
>>>> user and then 'upgrade' to root (via sudo - which takes THAT USER'S
>>>> password).
>
> You're thinking of Ubuntu. Overriding that in Ubuntu is possible, but
> requires some fiddling and is not generally regarded as worth the effort.
> (Ubuntu sets the root password hash to an impossible value at install,
> making root login impossible until you change it. After you do that, all of
> the various system defaults assume sudo is in charge, and fixing all of that
> is a real nuisance. Since it isn't necessary, sane people mostly don't
> bother.)
>
> If you gave root a password during install, then you should
> be able to log in at a VT with root, but not via SSH/*DM etc.

If you don't set a root password in d-i, you end up with a "sudo
system" like OS X and Ubuntu. There's no fiddling to enable root; you
simply run "sudo passed" and set a password for root.

Debian has "PermitRootLogin yes" by default in "/etc/ssh/sshd_config"
so you can login via ssh as root (if root is enabled).


>> The current situation is a long series of test installations serving two
>> goals:
>> A. understanding the ins and outs of the installation procedure
>> B. eventually deciding just what I want in a final system
>>
>> The laptop serving as a test vehicle:
>> is physically secure
>> will not spend much time connected to the internet
>> the hard drive as part of my experimenting will frequently be
>> reformatted
>
> Root logins can be handy to have at times.

With "sudo -s" and "sudo -i" available, you're never without root login.


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