On Wed, 23 May 2012 00:24:37 +1200, Chris wrote in message <20120522122437.GC25963@tal>:
> On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 12:48:49PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Ma, 22 mai 12, 02:49:23, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > > > > Sorry, I don't see it that way. I don't see debian-user as > > > <italic>the first "port of call" and if you don't get any help > > > ***THEN*** google and try to find out where the ***ACTUAL*** > > > place to get support is.</italic> > > > > IMVHO it is entirely apropiate for somebody to ask questions to a > > specific application packaged for Debian given that the Debian > > package may be patched or compiled different than the standard > > options. > > Good point. Although you find out soon enough about that sort of thing > from the other users. > > > Also, some upstreams are even quite hostile to The Debian Way (tm) > > regarding stable releases and the first advice might be to compile > > the latest version. Even if running sid you may be a few releases > > behind[1]. > > If you think you've found a bug sure, you'll normally get asked to > compile against latest git/svn/cvs to see if it still exists. The > Debian BTS also has bugs which are signed off "as we believe the bug > is fixed in the latest upload ... etc." > > Not to sure about "hostile to The Debian Way (tm)", I know the exim > developers and I think the Ruby developers are like that. > > But for general usage questions, tips, etc, you can't really beat the > actual mailing list for the program. > > > Add to this that even the general Debian[2] advice is to report > > bugs in the Debian BTS and let the maintainer forward bugs upstream > > if needed. > > Yeah, for bugs, but I'm referring to general usage questions. ..these too may be caused by The Debian Way[TM] of doing things. > > [1] but I do expect sid users to be able to help themselves :) > > [2] except packages that are prone to receive *a lot* of bug > > reports, like Gnome, KDE, Iceweasel, etc. > > Apparently they're "swamped" with unhelpful bug reports. :( ..some of which are caused by unhelpful responses here to _our_ newbie newcomers. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120522192152.03970...@celsius.lan
