On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 11:58:39 +1100
Scott Ferguson <prettyfly.producti...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 07/10/11 07:32, Weaver wrote:
> > On Thu, 06 Oct 2011 10:15:07 -0400
> > Miles Fidelman <mfidel...@meetinghouse.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> >>> All of the off topic crap the last couple of days is making it
> >>> more difficult to assist those who actually need help with Debian.
>
> Agreed (Stan), but.... unfortunately, like expecting people to abide
> by the published policies regarding language - it generally doesn't
> happen. In fact, on this list - the more offensive the poster - the
> more people throw themselves in the mud to assist them. :-(
>
> >>>
> >>> Debian is an OS for _mature_ Linux users. Please act like one and
> >>> stop this juvenile OT nonsense.
>
> Also agreed. I suspect you speak for the majority of list subscribers
> - those that read but don't post *unless they have a question*.
>
> >>>
> >>
> >> What's your problem?
>
> What's yours? Comprehension?
> Stan clearly stated his objections. Perhaps you didn't mean to offend
> (Miles)...
>
> >> It's interesting stuff,
>
> That's your assessment/opinion. And it sounds like an ignorant,
> bullying, and arrogant opinion. (again, that might not be your
> intention
> - just how it reads).
>
> >> and everyone is being
> >> polite and marking it [OT] and all that (except you, I might
> >> note). Maybe you should learn to use your delete key and/or
> >> kill-file stuff containing "[OT]"
>
> Agreed - (but I don't endorse your method of saying it.)
> AFAIK, all MUAs allow some sort of filtering. Using a "disposable",
> free, web mail account allows you to do that filtering without having
> to download the noise (and preserve the signal).
>
> >>
> >
> > The point has often been
>
> That's weasel talk ("Heddle Weaver").
> Many people believed the world was flat also - it doesn't make it so.
>
> > made that this list is for Debian 'Users' and
> > not therefore strictly Debian subject matter.
>
> Like a Texan long horn - there's a point here, and a point there -
> with a whole lot of bull in-between.
>
> The code of conduct is published - if you don't like it, then vote
> against it instead of making s*it up to support an unsustainable
> argument.
>
> http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/:-
>
> *The mailing lists exist to foster the development and use of Debian.
> Non-constructive or off-topic messages, along with other abuses, are
> not welcome.*
>
>
> > I think
>
> There's an established protocol for these issues in Debian - it's a
> community vote. Not an individuals "thought".
>
> > a bit of social
> > interaction does have the tendency to create 'community' which is
> > Debian's strength, so it could be viewed as productive.
>
> Plurium interrogationum - how cute.
> You do yourself no favours advancing that sort of fallacious logic.
>
> > What I have seen, with the clearly marked OT threads is the ability
> > to ignore/delete them
>
> Agreed.
>
> > as I do when I look through and delete any other
> > threads that I am not currently interested in or can't help with.
> > The 'noise' on this list is nothing to what I have seen in the past.
> > One, I remember, over communist mainland China and Taiwan that
> > resulted, very regretfully, in a kernel developer leaving.
>
> What we have seen in the Debian lists is that people who provide
> genuine assistance - don't because of the difficulty of wading
> through torrents of irrelevant rubbish. There's never a shortage of
> "helpers" with irrelevant opinions, or "pluckers of low hanging
> fruit" (here's what Google says".
> Tagging "[OT]" - is good, keeping the subject matter to Debian
> software and is better.
>
> > We are human beings and not automatons.
>
> Relevance?
>
> > We use different oil.
>
> Indeed but what are you trying to say?
> Either we allow endless off-topic drivel or we lose the list??
>
> Pure bifurcation rubbish. There are web forums for off-topic material
> - some even give "bean" ratings.
>
> > Regards,
> >
> > Weaver.
> >
>
> Note that in the past a list was created just for off-topic
> discussions. No one used it.
>
>
> Cheers.
>
>
What a load of bluster, ad homonym attack, rudeness, ignorance and
arrogance.
*Plonk*
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