Ouch!! Whatever happened Ralf? You don't usually post things for 20/20 vision only!!
Sadly, I'm not joking. You have stumbled on one of my hobby-horses. I can't read screeds of asphyxiated text like that, no matter how much I enlarge it! I - and others like me - need spaces and breathing holes in the text. Now I am unlikely to be able to help you in this particular case - but I found out that I couldn't read it by trying to do so. I know that I am not the only pebble on the beach, but I may well be less of a shrinking violet than others on this list with the same problem. Lisi Top-posted because no particular passage of the, to me, illegible text is more relevant than any other! I can't read it to pick something out. ;-) On Friday 23 September 2011 18:03:28 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 2011-09-23 at 10:15 -0500, John Foster wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 7:12 AM, Ralf Mardorf > > <ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net> wrote: > > Hi :) > > > > how can I find out which packages I need to lock against > > upgrading, to > > avoid that Synaptic will remove other packages I need? Isn't > > there a way > > to lock packages against removing? > > > > Usually there only will be some packages that will be > > upgraded, hence > > it's easy to find out which packages I need to lock against > > upgrading, > > but now there are to many packages, that will be upgraded. > > > > I already made a backup of the current Debian and locked > > several > > packages, anyway, I'm unable to upgrade, since I would lose > > needed > > development packages. > > > > Regards, > > > > Ralf > > > > Best way is to check the dependencies and the suggested items from > > Synaptics drop down menus when you highlite the main apps that you are > > locking. Then once you know what they are select them & lock the > > dependcies & the suggested ones that are installed. > > Best Wishes! > > john > > Thank you John :) > > unfortunately this doesn't help. > > The properties don't help, since it shows possible conflicts, with > packages that aren't installed and than a list of thousands of > dependencies. Really thousands, since I need to do it for many packages, > that should be removed, but I need to keep those packages. The existing > conflicts aren't shown. It's already hard to handle conflicts, when you > know them, but it's impossible to handle conflicts, when you have to > puzzle through thousands of packages. Isn't there really no way to see > the conflicting packages or to lock packages, that should be removed, in > a way that they are protected against removal? If there shouldn't be a > way, I need to use another Linux. I know at least, that this is easy to > handle when using Suse. FWIW I didn't compile a lot my self and > everything or nearly everything was installed by packages and nothing of > those packages can conflict with the packages that will be removed. The > conflicts are related to the used repositories, e.g. there's one > conflict I solved, to keep the nv driver. Since nouveau driver can't be > used for audio productions and nvidia proprietary just will work with > some audio production capable kernels. Too bad that there's no serious > multimedia repository for Debian. Is there any way to manage this issue > with aptitude, apt or dpkg? Is there any repository that takes care of > current Linux audio and video capabilities without running into > dependency hell? That does mean that there has to be the possibility to > get a package or at least to keep it possible, to self compile Ardour3 > with videotimeline, qtractor and jack2 from subversion, ALSA to get a > RME HDSP AIO run, to keep the nv driver etc., without the need to puzzle > half a year, 8 hours a day through thousands of conflicts. > Since testing is outdated for audio and video software, but anyway needs > downgrades to stable for X packages, to use audio and video software, I > wonder if Debian is interested in video and audio. We are living in > media age and not everybody just wish to do amateur audio and video > editing. Sorry, I'm pissed, since I would finish a production and need > to upgrade, then I anyway would have to fight with compatibility issues, > not seldom a production isn't compatible to upgraded packages. > Is there really the need to use an OS/ a computers with it's own OS from > evil companies to work professional? > Why can't I simply protect packages against being removed? A lock for > those packages by Synaptic doesn't. You need to search conflicting > packages and to lock those against upgrading. If the conflict is known > by the package management, why isn't it shown, why will it automatically > remove important packages. Odd behaviour! No, much more, it's buggy, a > broken OS. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201109232252.29664.lisi.re...@gmail.com
