Hi

I recently upgraded my sid system.

Sound had been working nicely. Then we were upgraded to the 3.0.0-1-amd64 
kernel and for some reason I had no sound.
When i ran lsmod i got 
mlaks@Rashi:~$ lsmod |grep snd
snd_via82xx            23098  2 
snd_via82xx_modem      17693  0 
gameport               13649  1 snd_via82xx
snd_ac97_codec        106837  2 snd_via82xx,snd_via82xx_modem
snd_pcm_oss            41257  0 
snd_mixer_oss          17969  1 snd_pcm_oss
ac97_bus               12510  1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm                68104  4 
snd_via82xx,snd_via82xx_modem,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
snd_mpu401_uart        13507  1 snd_via82xx
snd_seq_midi           12848  0 
snd_rawmidi            23297  2 snd_mpu401_uart,snd_seq_midi
snd_seq_midi_event     13316  1 snd_seq_midi
snd_seq                45208  2 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_timer              22581  2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd_seq_device         13137  3 snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
snd                    52823  15 
snd_via82xx,snd_via82xx_modem,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
soundcore              13152  1 snd
snd_page_alloc         13043  3 snd_via82xx,snd_via82xx_modem,snd_pcm

now if i try this 

mlaks@Rashi:~$ lsmod |grep alsa
mlaks@Rashi:~$

so looks like no alsa.
so i tried to compile alsa using m-a
and compilation failed for some reason (something about missing  versions.h 
file in the sound directory even though i have the kernel headers set up well)

I tried running speaker-test and I still could not hear anything

I ran gamix and everying seems to be ok in settings. Still no sound out of 
speakers. Speakers work fine with an external  mp3 player

Just no sound heard.

In fact now that I think about it, 
I had lost sound even before I did the apt-get update/ upgrade, 
infact it happened  while I was playing some video on youtube. 

In fact I did the sid upgrade to try to restore sound.

Anyway, I then did something strange. I was trying to listen to  mp3 and i did 
something strange, instead of opening it with rhythmbox, which did not
work, i tried opening it with okular (stupidly), accidentally. 

then a screen opened up and said

KDE detected that one or more internal sound devices were removed.

Do you want KDE to permanently forget about these devices?

This is the list of devices KDE thinks can be removed:
Capture: VIA 8237 with ALC850 (VIA 8237)
Capture: VIA 8237 with ALC850 (VIA 8237) #1
Output: VIA 8237 with ALC850 (VIA 8237)
Output: VIA 8237 with ALC850 (VIA 8237) #1


do no ask again for these devices

yes no manage devices

So I clicked manage devices and then i can hear sound again in  all 
applications.

1. what is going on?
2. what is now substituted for alsa?
3. I always had to use alsa to get sound working in my system.

mlaks@Rashi:~$ lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8T800Pro Host Bridge
00:00.1 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8T800Pro Host Bridge
00:00.2 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8T800Pro Host Bridge
00:00.3 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8T800Pro Host Bridge
00:00.4 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8T800Pro Host Bridge
00:00.7 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8T800Pro Host Bridge
00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 PCI bridge [K8T800/K8T890 
South]
00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8001 Gigabit 
Ethernet Controller (rev 13)
00:0c.0 Mass storage controller: Promise Technology, Inc. PDC20518/PDC40518 
(SATAII 150 TX4) (rev 02)
00:0f.0 RAID bus controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA VT6420 SATA RAID 
Controller (rev 80)
00:0f.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. 
VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 
Controller (rev 81)
00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 
Controller (rev 81)
00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 
Controller (rev 81)
00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 
Controller (rev 81)
00:10.4 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 86)
00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 ISA bridge 
[KT600/K8T800/K8T890 South]
00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 
AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)
00:11.6 Communication controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. AC'97 Modem Controller 
(rev 80)
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] 
HyperTransport Technology Configuration
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address 
Map
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM 
Controller
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] 
Miscellaneous Control
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV43 [GeForce 6600 GT] 
(rev a2)
mlaks@Rashi:~$ 

thanks

Mitchell Laks


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