On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 09:10 -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Ralf Mardorf > <ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net> wrote: > > On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 08:21 -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > >> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Darac Marjal <mailingl...@darac.org.uk> > >> wrote: > >> > On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 11:03:36AM -0500, Matt wrote: > >> >> I have worked with Centos quite a bit in past though no expert. > >> >> Giving Debian a whirl now. > >> >> > >> > [cut] > >> >> > >> >> yum update > >> > > >> > This becomes "apt-get update" in debian. > >> > >> No. It's not. This is an endless source of confusion for folks coming > >> over from RHEL land. "apt-get update" just resyncs your local > >> repository information, it attempts to install nothing. > >> > >> The equivalent apt command is "apt-get upgrade". The equivalent yum > >> command to "apt-get update" is "yum clean metadata; yum list", to > >> update the available package list. > > > > As a German and a child from the 80's (44 years today) I started with > > SUSE Linux and IIRC they do use yum too, still have got Suse 11.2 > > installed, but I'm using yast2, if ever I should change something. > > > > Don't try to find equivalents, re-educate yourself. > > Especially if you've been using YaST based tools. Lord, SuSE did > nastiness to that with the non-RPM-based packages from third parties. > I welcome Debian's consistent approach of "bundle it and do it right: > here are good tools for you" rather than trying to outsmart the vendor > packaging systems. (NVidia drivers, shudder!!!!) > > Apt has been a very intelligible and effective shift from yum based > repositories for me: much of the credit for that goes to the Debian > maintainers and their firm grasp of "give them enough rope to hang > themselves, if they want, but make sure it's *good rope* and won't > break at surprising moments or chafe their backsides when they make a > hammock".
A last OT mail from me. Switching from Suse to Debian (for a while I used Ubuntu and now switched back from Ubuntu to Debian) made at least my life easier, just some re-education was needed and of cause some multi-distro behaviours still track me, yesterday, for the first time ever I used debuild instead of checkinstall to build current ALSA packages. Building a kernel on Debian is much more comfortable, than on Suse and yes, it's easier to break a Suse especially when doing an upgrade, than to break a Debian. OtherMMV Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307712743.13487.138.camel@debian
