On 12 April 2011 16:34, shawn wilson <ag4ve...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Chris Brennan <xa...@xaerolimit.net> wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:12 AM, shawn wilson <ag4ve...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> another thing about times changing - virtuals are great. download some >>> popular distros (don't limit yourself to linux either). i'd suggest >>> debian, fedora, centos, ubuntu, and freebsd. then get virtual box and >>> have fun. go, install, snapshot and then mess everything up. if you >>> can't figure out how to put it back together again, revert to the >>> snapshot.
I suggest Debian, CentOS and a BSD are enough to get started with :-) No need to scare the chap off /that/ soon ;-) >> You'll need VMWare or VirtualBox (VBox is free but because it's not Oracle >> owned, it's licence might radically change without warning ... If you >> *really* want to make a project out of it, try Gentoo too, fair warning >> though, it can be time consuming. > > virtualbox, vmware, xen, hyperv, kvm, qemu, virtual iron (are they > still in business?) They got borged by Oracle, IIRC, leaving them with at least 3 different virtual platforms: virtualbox, solaris zones, virtual iron. Ooo, and maybe one more whose name escapes me. They also bought up Q-Layer, who were *great* ... and then dropped it entirely. OVM - that's what I was thinking of. Oracle VM, a RHEL-based Xen product with a web UI. Not too shabby, but why would you /bother/? > and i'm probably missing some others. the reason > i just mentioned virtualbox is because it's easy. there is also > proxmox which is a bare metal environment but that requires spare > hardware and isn't as mature as virtualbox. > > per the source of virtualbox - oracle owns it. however, it is all > under a gpl type license exept the usb driver which is close source. ISTR there are some more exceptions than /just/ USB, but can't recall them at the moment. I'd honestly not recommend an Oracle-owned product at this point. They're showing themselves to be too hostile to FLOSS to trust them. And while I /know/ virtualbox is good and useful, the (relatively small!) extra work required to get KVM+libvirt (i.e. virt-manager) going will repay you many times over for the greater control and understanding you'll have of the underlying system. IMHO. Jonathan -- Jonathan Matthews London, UK http://www.jpluscplusm.com/contact.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/banlktikgqoxe-7ogrfxuj1mqot_gmyf...@mail.gmail.com