In <AANLkTiki5q8pN=k0mg-ng96vykmqk7w-9skxq4f2m...@mail.gmail.com>, shawn 
wilson wrote:
>On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 1:32 PM, 
>Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. <b...@iguanasuicide.net> wrote:
>> In <4d685bbb.2010...@gmail.com>, Aaron Toponce wrote:
>> >More garbage. There are _many_ good reasons to reboot a UNIX or
>> >GNU/Linux server:
>> >
>> >* Forcing applications to use the new libraries.
>> 
>> Poor reason; I've never found an application that needed a reboot to fix
>> this.  (Yes, you need to restart the application, but not the OS.)
>
>lets look at this for a second. lets look at the libraries that init uses:

telinit u

The exec* family of functions always opens a file based on path so they will 
get the new /sbin/init binary.  Because of the way the linker works, this 
will also pick up new versions of dynamically linked libraries.

>> >* Ensuring all hardware is still in good, working order.
>> 
>> Good reason.
>> 
>iirc, if the device was made properly, when you reload a driver, it will 
>reboot the device.

Can the caps on my MB hold through another boot?  What about the various 
devices between the kernel and RAM, the filesystem holding '/', and any swap 
devices?

>> >* Even modifying partitions or filesystems to accommodate new storage
>> 
>> needs.
>> 
>> I've done quite a bit of this live.  LVM is good stuff.  Sound be in most
>> environments.
>
>on a default debian install, there is no extra space to resize lvm.

Shrink one of your file systems and use the extra space.  I don't use default 
Debian paritioning anyway.  / /home /opt /var /srv /usr /usr/local /tmp 
/var/tmp /var/cache are all separate file systems on non-VPS systems I 
control.

Even with just /, swap, and /home, you can unmount and shrink home to grow /.  
Even "venerable" ext3 has the ability to grow while mounted.  (btrfs and zfs 
can shirnk while mounted!)
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