on 12:24 Wed 23 Feb, The Suspect (policeoppress...@gmail.com) wrote: > >From where comes the trust for your archive? > > Let me explain something that I am sure you are fully aware, just to point > it out.
Let me short-cut this whole discussion. Read "How PGP Works": http://www.pgpi.org/doc/pgpintro/ Pay particular attention to the section titled "Validity and trust". > Your site says to download the following keyring file in order to trust your > packages: > > http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/d/debian-multimedia-keyring/debian-multimedia-keyring_2010.12.26_all.deb > PGP (from which GNU Privacy Guard is based) relies on two core features: public key cryptography (or infrastructure, hence: PKI), and a web of trust. PGP key distribution is *independent* from the trust of the distribution site or transport channel. What you're trusting isn't the keys, the server, or the transport, but the signatures *you* *know* on the key(s). These signatures are cryptographically secure (they're not likely to have been compromised through cryptographic methods, though other means of breaching trust are possible). If you /can't/ establish a trust connection between yourself and a key, then unless you can come up with a good reason for doing so, you don't trust it to certify an identity. The best you can do is attribute an imputed trust to it over time (say, for a well-known key or for a key with many well-known signatures) Listing signatures on the key 1F41B907 shows some 76 signatures (including multiple self-signatures from Christian Marillat). Introducing yourself to one of these signers (or establishing a web of trust including them) would allay some of your fears. Note that now all you've established is that you've got a crytographically based trust that the person is who they've said they are. Not that you trust them at all times to write/release benvolent code. The fact that you're complaining about a keyring and repo outside the Debian Project / SPI is merely icing on the cake. As for trusting SSL: http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/12/forging_ssl_cer.html http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2010/04/man-in-the-midd_2.html http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2010/09/uae_man-in-the-.html It's so fortunate the world doesn't have to, say, worry about the validity and/or moral compass of middle-eastern / north-African governments. -- Dr. Ed Morbius, Chief Scientist / | Robot Wrangler / Staff Psychologist | When you seek unlimited power Krell Power Systems Unlimited | Go to Krell! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110224014711.gd4...@altaira.krellpowersys.exo