2011/2/13 Wolodja Wentland <babi...@gmail.com>:
> On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 04:39 -0500, Travis wrote:
>> any ways, do an install with  b43 wireless card and don't feed it
>> firmware.  this breaks the network and then the updates and then the
>> voltial line in apt sources.  in other words if someone attempts to
>> install debian on a laptop its going to be a bitch to get working if
>> they haven't used linux for years.

Hello

I had a Compaq with that wifi card, when i installed Debian on it, i
did the installation directly by eth0, and then i installed b43
firmware, usung b43fw-cutter.

Now, i have 3 laptops with intel wifi cards, and i use 1 rtl-8187L usb
card to install and install private firmware; the rtl-8187L does not
need extra firmware, it just works correctly.


>> sorry but i hate all linux's for what they've become ( i miss old mandrake 
>> 7.2
>> ) and debian was the last hope, now i'm not so sure :-(, automagic is EVIL!
>
> There is no single "Linux" entity, but I much prefer some of the
> automagic that is happening now to the manual work needed earlier. A
> good example for automagic gone wrong is grub2, where very few users
> actually understand how they are supposed to configure it if they *know*
> what they want and the scripts just don't come up with that.
>
> An example of automagic done right is Xorg. It configures itself
> correctly most of the time and if you need to change something you can
> place a little snippet in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ that contains exactly
> the single setting you want to change.

Well, i am having a problem with my touch-pad, clicks are not working,
and i am unsure how configure it!


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