On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Javier Vasquez <j.e.vasque...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Mark Goldshtein > <mark.goldsht...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 9:37 PM, Javier Vasquez <j.e.vasque...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>... >> >> If you have couple of minutes, would you, please, to expand your >> comments about a system without desktop environment? Targeting a >> laptop. > > In both the laptops I manage: > > 1.- Dell Inspiron 600M (my dad's). > 2.- Compaq 8510w (from work). > > I don't have a desktop environment such as kde, gnome, xfce, or any > other. In my dad's I call startfluxbox from ~/.xsession, and have xdm > installed and working, that's it. > > For the one from work, as I'm the only one using it, I don't even have > a session loader installed, to start X I just call startx, and again, > I just call startfluxbox from ~/.xsession. > > I've lived that way for so long that I don't like bloated (my opinion, > not to start a discussion) desktop environments... Things might > change, but I still feel confortable this way... > >> Is that enough to install a base system, bootloader, then reboot, > > I don't know what a base system is. For squeeze (I had recently to > install it in other boxes, also without desktop environment) the first > thing I did was to change the configuration that by default now sets > APT to always install "recommended packages": > > % cat /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/00InstallRecommends > APT::Install-Recommends "false"; > > That I did through the installation process, since with "recommends" > there's a lot of unnecessary (according to me) software installed. > Then I didn't install anything else than the minimum required. The > default coming from squeeze might do. Then I start installing the > applications I want, including power management, fluxbox, X, alsa > stuff, etc... Without using tasksel, since most of such tasks are not > good for me. I always install build-essential, and some additional > compilation stuff, plus other applications for office, web browsing > etc. > > This is my approach, doesn't mean you have to follow though. BTW, I > use aptitude in ncurses mode to install, and select/unselect some > dependencies... > >> install "acpi" packages you have mentioned, xorg and then a window >> manager? >> Is there dependences on 'xorg', which allow a proper xorg installation? > > There's a package Xorg which automatically triggers lots of > dependencies such as xserver-xorg. I do install more stuff. I don't > like xserver-xorg-*-all, I go and unselect them, and instead select > just the input devices, video devices etc that I need. I don't like > installing everything. Then I also shoot for several fonts not > automatically selected by Xorg, like TTFs, and terminus (the one I use > for console and X terminals)... > >> Please, correct me, I am sure I have missed a lot of useful system >> components. Like xscreensaver, for example. > > Xorg was having lots of problems with memory management with > Xscreensaver on the Dell inspiron laptop. There's a reported and > unfixed bug about it, so I completely dropped xscreensaver. I use > instead a combination of: > > xlockmore > xautolock > > I think that provides all I need in terms of screen saving. And more > now that I'm trying to play green a bit, :-) So I just have blank > screen to minimize power consuption, :-) > > Please notice that what works for one, doesn't mean works for > everyone. A lot of people is happy with desktop environments, so it > might be they work OK for you... > > -- > Javier.
Lots of useful info in there Javier. Also worth mentioning, though it doesn't seem you use it, is laptop-mode-tools. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikp8zg0b4zuvqvmx-lvi0gays-pqtaiy3=gn...@mail.gmail.com
