On 16/09/10 13:11, Bret Busby wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Sep 2010, Kelly Clowers wrote:
>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 19:52, Kelly Clowers
>> <kelly.clow...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 08:57, Bret Busby <b...@busby.net> wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 13 Sep 2010, Kelly Clowers wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You say Moz (?) but, if you refer to Seamonkey, that is
>>>>>> diifferent (from
>>>>>> what I understand) to iceape, which has, from what I understand,
>>>>>> some of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Mozilla stuff that makes Mozilla software what it is, removed.
>>>>>
>>>>> The only thing that should be removed is the name.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I may be wrong in my understanding, but I believe that some of the
>>>> functionality was removed, in the modifications of the Mozilla
>>>> products to
>>>> create the Debian products iceape and iceweasel, as the Mozilla
>>>> products
>>>> apparently did not comply with the Debian philosophy and thence
>>>> Mozilla
>>>> products in their Mozilla forms were no longer available via the
>>>> Debian
>>>> repositories.
>>>
>>> If by "some of the functionality was removed", you mean the
>>> standard Firefox
>>> and SeaMonkey Icons, then sure. That's about it AFAIK. Trouble with
>>> the icon
>>> licensing (and some issues with carrying patches, I think) led to
>>> trouble with
>>> the trademarks, which led to the name change.
>>
>
> I understood that some of the functionality
> (subroutines/modules/whatever) did not comply with the Debian
> philosophy, and so were removed, to make the resultant applications
> compliant with the Debian philosophy.
>
> I do not remember the details - it was some years ago, I think, when
> Seamonkey and Firefox were removed from the Debian repositories or
> removed from a (then) upcoming version of Debian, to be replaced by
> iceape and iceweasel.
>
> One of the Debian project people, or, if the Debian Project has
> Project Historians (people who can track historical events/changes in
> the way the Debian project does its thing) may know more of this, and
> could better advise regarding this.
>
> Icons are not functionality - they are only widow dressing.
>
> --
> Bret Busby
> Armadale
> West Australia
> ..............
>
> </snip>
>
> ....................................................
> I understood that some of the functionality
> (subroutines/modules/whatever) did not comply with the Debian
> philosophy, and so were removed, to make the resultant applications
> compliant with the Debian philosophy.
Mozilla Corp. (as opposed to Mozilla Foundation) took offence at:-
* Debian backporting security fixes to older versions of
Firefox/Iceweasel
* *at Debian allowing users to change search engines and make other
modifications*
, and insisted the use of the Firefox name is permitted only if
accompanied by its logo, icons, and other artwork (which is in breach of
the Debian Free Software Guidlines).
Long story short, icons, artwork, logo, and icons changed in the Debian
version (Icecat is another story).
So - reduced funtionality in Iceweasel - emphatically no. In fact
Iceweasel has more functionality than Firefox.
Feel free to look it up for yourself - the references are on this page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceweasel
Cheers
