On Fri, Sep 03, 2010 at 03:49:10PM -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: > On Fri, 03 Sep 2010 14:15:23 -0400 (EDT), Thomas H. George wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 03, 2010 at 12:24:08PM -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: > >> On Fri, 03 Sep 2010 12:06:29 -0400 (EDT), Thomas H. George wrote: > >>> > >>> After latest upgrade installation of lilo fails. > >>> > >>> I am not using raid and have the entry boot=/dev/hda in lilo.conf as > >>> specified in the man page. The installation fails with error code 01 > >>> which according to the lilo man page means invalid disk command. > >>> > >>> Does it now want a UUID? If so, where do I find the correct UUID. > >>> Values for the partitions are listed in /etc/fstab but not for the MBR. > >>> I have checked several posibilities in /proc without success. In > >>> particular in /proc/bus there are now only three subdirectories, Input, > >>> pci and usb. > >>> > >>> Since this a new problem I checked the archives for August and September > >>> but found nothing about lilo. > >> > >> Your post is lacking important information to diagnose the problem. > >> For example, > >> > >> (1) Are you running Lenny or Squeeze? (or something else) > > Squeeze > >> (2) What architecture? (i386 or amd64) > > amd64 > >> (3) What kernel are you running? Is it stock or custom? If it is > >> custom, exactly how did you build it? > > Stock kernel 2.6.32-5-amd64 > >> (4) What additional backup kernels (if any) do you have installed? > > /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-1-amd64.sav > > /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-1-amd64 > > /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-2-amd64 > > /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.30-1-amd64 > > /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.30-2-amd64 > > /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-3-amd64 > > /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-amd64 > >> (5) What files, if any, are present in the following directories: > >> /etc/kernel/postinst.d > > initramfs-tools > > pm-utils > > zz-lilo > > zz-update-grub > >> /etc/kernel/postrm.d > > initramfs-tools > > zz-lilo > > zz-update-grub > >> /etc/initramfs/post-update.d > > lilo > >> (6) I'd like to see the contents of the following files: > >> /etc/kernel-img.conf > > # Kernel image management overrides > > # See kernel-img.conf(5) for details > > do_symlinks = yes > > relative_links = yes > > do_bootloader = yes > > do_bootfloppy = no > > do_initrd = yes > > link_in_boot = no > >> /etc/fstab > > # /etc/fstab: static file system information. > > # > > # <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> > > <pass> > > proc /proc proc defaults 0 > > 0 > > # /dev/sdb1 / ext3 errors=remount-ro 0 1 > > UUID=bfcd3316-153a-4279-ab86-286906857b98 / ext3 > > errors=remount-ro 0 1 > > # /dev/sdb5 none swap sw 0 0 > > UUID=4b1523d0-bec9-4565-b085-0a151469b8db none swap sw > > 0 0 > > > > # formerly named /dev/sda1 is now: > > UUID=507caf8f-f9cd-4ed2-91cc-3e46ae942e9d /bkups ext3 > > rw,user,noauto 0 2 > > # /dev/sda5 /ubuntu ext3 defaults 0 2 > > UUID=28a4eb99-6213-4b82-96a2-42b45097e256 /ubuntu ext3 > > defaults 0 2 > > # /dev/sda6 /data ext3 defaults 0 2 > > UUID=36cb29b0-2694-4dee-9ae4-10351963b979 /data ext3 > > defaults 0 2 > > > > /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0 > > > > > > # /dev/hda1 /temp ext2 rw,user,auto 0 2 > > UUID=4a2915d8-60cf-498e-a15c-f0bc6ebdb25e /temp ext2 > > rw,user,auto 0 2 > > # /dev/hda5 /storage ext2 defaults 0 2 > > UUID=408287f4-8b15-42d1-b6d3-bfeaefde3002 /storage ext2 > > defaults 0 2 > > > > # /etc/fstab: static file system information. > > # > > # <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> > > <pass> > > > > /dev/cdrom /cdrom iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0 > > > > /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 > > /dev/scd0 /media/cddata auto ro,user,noauto 0 0 > > /dev/scd1 /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 > > > > /dev/sdc1 /usbkey auto rw,user,noauto 0 0 > > /dev/sdc5 /media/bkup ext3 rw,user,noauto 0 0 > > /dev/sdc /media/fuze vfat rw,user,noauto 0 0 > > > > /dev/sr0 /media/cdrw iso9660 rw,user,noauto 0 0 > > /dev/sr1 /dvdrw iso9660 rw,user,noauto 0 0 > > /dev/sg0 /sony iso9660 rw,user,noauto 0 0 > > /dev/sg1 /usbdrive vfat rw,user,noauto 0 0 > > > > /dev/sdd1 /usbmem vfat rw,user,noauto 0 0 > >> /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume > > # RESUME=/dev/sdb5 > > RESUME='UUID=4b1523d0-bec9-4565-b085-0a151469b8db' > >> /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/driver-policy > > No such file > >> /etc/lilo.conf > > # Automatically added by lilo postinst script > > large-memory > > > > # /etc/lilo.conf - See: `lilo(8)' and `lilo.conf(5)', > > # --------------- `install-mbr(8)', `/usr/share/doc/lilo/', > > # and `/usr/share/doc/mbr/'. > > > > # +---------------------------------------------------------------+ > > # | !! Reminder !! | > > # | | > > # | Don't forget to run `lilo' after you make changes to this | > > # | conffile, `/boot/bootmess.txt' (if you have created it), or | > > # | install a new kernel. The computer will most likely fail to | > > # | boot if a kernel-image post-install script or you don't | > > # | remember to run `lilo'. | > > # | | > > # +---------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > > # Specifies the boot device. This is where Lilo installs its boot > > # block. It can be either a partition, or the raw device, in which > > # case it installs in the MBR, and will overwrite the current MBR. > > # > > boot=/dev/hda > > > > # Specifies the device that should be mounted as root. (`/') > > # > > > > # root = /dev/sdb1 > > root = "UUID=bfcd3316-153a-4279-ab86-286906857b98" > > > > > > # This option may be needed for some software RAID installs. > > # > > # raid-extra-boot=mbr-only > > > > # Enable map compaction: > > # Tries to merge read requests for adjacent sectors into a single > > # read request. This drastically reduces load time and keeps the > > # map smaller. Using `compact' is especially recommended when > > # booting from a floppy disk. It is disabled here by default > > # because it doesn't always work. > > # > > # compact > > > > # Installs the specified file as the new boot sector > > # You have the choice between: text, bmp, and menu > > # Look in lilo.conf(5) manpage for details > > # > > #install=menu > > > > # Specifies the location of the map file > > # > > map=/boot/map > > > > # You can set a password here, and uncomment the `restricted' lines > > # in the image definitions below to make it so that a password must > > # be typed to boot anything but a default configuration. If a > > # command line is given, other than one specified by an `append' > > # statement in `lilo.conf', the password will be required, but a > > # standard default boot will not require one. > > # > > # This will, for instance, prevent anyone with access to the > > # console from booting with something like `Linux init=/bin/sh', > > # and thus becoming `root' without proper authorization. > > # > > # Note that if you really need this type of security, you will > > # likely also want to use `install-mbr' to reconfigure the MBR > > # program, as well as set up your BIOS to disallow booting from > > # removable disk or CD-ROM, then put a password on getting into the > > # BIOS configuration as well. Please RTFM `install-mbr(8)'. > > # > > # password=tatercounter2000 > > > > # Specifies the number of deciseconds (0.1 seconds) LILO should > > # wait before booting the first image. > > # > > delay=20 > > > > # You can put a customized boot message up if you like. If you use > > # `prompt', and this computer may need to reboot unattended, you > > # must specify a `timeout', or it will sit there forever waiting > > # for a keypress. `single-key' goes with the `alias' lines in the > > # `image' configurations below. eg: You can press `1' to boot > > # `Linux', `2' to boot `LinuxOLD', if you uncomment the `alias'. > > # > > message=/boot/bootmess.txt > > prompt > > # delay=100 > > # timeout=100 > > > > # Specifies the VGA text mode at boot time. (normal, extended, ask, <mode>) > > # > > # vga=ask > > # vga=9 > > # > > > > > > # Kernel command line options that apply to all installed images go > > # here. See: The `boot-prompt-HOWTO' and `kernel-parameters.txt' in > > # the Linux kernel `Documentation' directory. > > # > > # append="" > > > > # If you used a serial console to install Debian, this option should be > > # enabled by default. > > # serial= > > > > # > > # Boot up Linux by default. > > # > > default=Linux > > > > image=/vmlinuz > > label=Linux > > read-only > > # restricted > > # alias=1 > > append="quiet" > > initrd=/initrd.img > > > > image=/vmlinuz.old > > label=LinuxOLD > > read-only > > optional > > # restricted > > # alias=2 > > append="quiet" > > initrd=/initrd.img.old > > > > image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-1-amd64.sav > > label=LinuxSaved > > read-only > > append="quiet" > > initrd=/boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-1-amd64.sav > > > > # If you have another OS on this machine to boot, you can uncomment the > > # following lines, changing the device name on the `other' line to > > # where your other OS' partition is. > > # > > # other=/dev/hda4 > > # label=HURD > > # restricted > > # alias=3 > >> (7) I'd like to see the output of the following commands: > >> ls -Ald /dev/disk/by-uuid/ output using ls -Al > > total 0 > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 3 10:16 17E9-242F -> ../../sdd1 > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 3 10:16 28a4eb99-6213-4b82-96a2-42b45097e256 > > -> ../../sda5 > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 3 10:16 36cb29b0-2694-4dee-9ae4-10351963b979 > > -> ../../sda6 > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 3 10:16 408287f4-8b15-42d1-b6d3-bfeaefde3002 > > -> ../../sdb5 > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 3 10:16 4a2915d8-60cf-498e-a15c-f0bc6ebdb25e > > -> ../../sdb1 > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 3 10:16 4b1523d0-bec9-4565-b085-0a151469b8db > > -> ../../sdc5 > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 3 10:16 507caf8f-f9cd-4ed2-91cc-3e46ae942e9d > > -> ../../sda1 > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 3 10:16 bfcd3316-153a-4279-ab86-286906857b98 > > -> ../../sdc1 > >> ls -Al /dev/disk/by-path/ > > total 0 > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Sep 3 10:16 > > pci-0000:00:02.0-usb-0:2:1.0-scsi-0:0:0:0 -> ../../sdd > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 3 10:16 > > pci-0000:00:02.0-usb-0:2:1.0-scsi-0:0:0:0-part1 -> ../../sdd1 > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Sep 3 10:16 > > pci-0000:00:02.1-usb-0:1:1.0-scsi-0:0:0:0 -> ../../sr1 > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Sep 3 10:16 pci-0000:00:04.0-scsi-0:0:0:0 -> > > ../../sdb > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 3 10:16 pci-0000:00:04.0-scsi-0:0:0:0-part1 > > -> ../../sdb1 > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 3 10:16 pci-0000:00:04.0-scsi-0:0:0:0-part2 > > -> ../../sdb2 > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 3 10:16 pci-0000:00:04.0-scsi-0:0:0:0-part5 > > -> ../../sdb5 > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Sep 3 10:16 pci-0000:00:05.0-scsi-0:0:0:0 -> > > ../../sda > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 3 10:16 pci-0000:00:05.0-scsi-0:0:0:0-part1 > > -> ../../sda1 > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 3 10:16 pci-0000:00:05.0-scsi-0:0:0:0-part2 > > -> ../../sda2 > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 3 10:16 pci-0000:00:05.0-scsi-0:0:0:0-part5 > > -> ../../sda5 > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 3 10:16 pci-0000:00:05.0-scsi-0:0:0:0-part6 > > -> ../../sda6 > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Sep 3 10:16 pci-0000:00:05.0-scsi-1:0:0:0 -> > > ../../sr0 > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Sep 3 10:16 pci-0000:00:05.1-scsi-0:0:0:0 -> > > ../../sdc > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 3 10:16 pci-0000:00:05.1-scsi-0:0:0:0-part1 > > -> ../../sdc1 > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 3 10:16 pci-0000:00:05.1-scsi-0:0:0:0-part2 > > -> ../../sdc2 > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 3 10:16 pci-0000:00:05.1-scsi-0:0:0:0-part5 > > -> ../../sdc5 > >> ls -Al /dev/disk/by-id/ > > total 0 > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Sep 3 10:16 > > ata-WDC_WD307AA-00BAA0_WD-WMA2F3071727 -> ../../sdb > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 3 10:16 > > ata-WDC_WD307AA-00BAA0_WD-WMA2F3071727-part1 -> ../../sdb1 > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 3 10:16 > > ata-WDC_WD307AA-00BAA0_WD-WMA2F3071727-part2 -> ../../sdb2 > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 3 10:16 > > ata-WDC_WD307AA-00BAA0_WD-WMA2F3071727-part5 -> ../../sdb5 > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Sep 3 10:16 > > ata-WDC_WD4000ABYS-01TNA0_WD-WCAPY0040763 -> ../../sda > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 3 10:16 > > ata-WDC_WD4000ABYS-01TNA0_WD-WCAPY0040763-part1 -> ../../sda1 > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 3 10:16 > > ata-WDC_WD4000ABYS-01TNA0_WD-WCAPY0040763-part2 -> ../../sda2 > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 3 10:16 > > ata-WDC_WD4000ABYS-01TNA0_WD-WCAPY0040763-part5 -> ../../sda5 > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 3 10:16 > > ata-WDC_WD4000ABYS-01TNA0_WD-WCAPY0040763-part6 -> ../../sda6 > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Sep 3 10:16 > > ata-WDC_WD800JD-60LSA5_WD-WMAM9UU42905 -> ../../sdc > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 3 10:16 > > ata-WDC_WD800JD-60LSA5_WD-WMAM9UU42905-part1 -> ../../sdc1 > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 3 10:16 > > ata-WDC_WD800JD-60LSA5_WD-WMAM9UU42905-part2 -> ../../sdc2 > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 3 10:16 > > ata-WDC_WD800JD-60LSA5_WD-WMAM9UU42905-part5 -> ../../sdc5 > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Sep 3 10:16 > > scsi-SATA_WDC_WD307AA-00BWD-WMA2F3071727 -> ../../sdb > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 3 10:16 > > scsi-SATA_WDC_WD307AA-00BWD-WMA2F3071727-part1 -> ../../sdb1 > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 3 10:16 > > scsi-SATA_WDC_WD307AA-00BWD-WMA2F3071727-part2 -> ../../sdb2 > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 3 10:16 > > scsi-SATA_WDC_WD307AA-00BWD-WMA2F3071727-part5 -> ../../sdb5 > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Sep 3 10:16 > > scsi-SATA_WDC_WD4000ABYS-_WD-WCAPY0040763 -> ../../sda > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 3 10:16 > > scsi-SATA_WDC_WD4000ABYS-_WD-WCAPY0040763-part1 -> ../../sda1 > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 3 10:16 > > scsi-SATA_WDC_WD4000ABYS-_WD-WCAPY0040763-part2 -> ../../sda2 > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 3 10:16 > > scsi-SATA_WDC_WD4000ABYS-_WD-WCAPY0040763-part5 -> ../../sda5 > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 3 10:16 > > scsi-SATA_WDC_WD4000ABYS-_WD-WCAPY0040763-part6 -> ../../sda6 > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Sep 3 10:16 > > scsi-SATA_WDC_WD800JD-60L_WD-WMAM9UU42905 -> ../../sdc > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 3 10:16 > > scsi-SATA_WDC_WD800JD-60L_WD-WMAM9UU42905-part1 -> ../../sdc1 > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 3 10:16 > > scsi-SATA_WDC_WD800JD-60L_WD-WMAM9UU42905-part2 -> ../../sdc2 > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 3 10:16 > > scsi-SATA_WDC_WD800JD-60L_WD-WMAM9UU42905-part5 -> ../../sdc5 > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Sep 3 10:16 > > usb-LEXAR_JUMPDRIVE_E141520206010-0:0 -> ../../sdd > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 3 10:16 > > usb-LEXAR_JUMPDRIVE_E141520206010-0:0-part1 -> ../../sdd1 > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Sep 3 10:16 > > usb-SONY_DVD_RW_DRU-510A_DRX-510UL_SYQ013324-0:0 -> ../../sr1 > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Sep 3 10:16 wwn-0x50014ee200ed8e67 -> ../../sda > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 3 10:16 wwn-0x50014ee200ed8e67-part1 -> > > ../../sda1 > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 3 10:16 wwn-0x50014ee200ed8e67-part2 -> > > ../../sda2 > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 3 10:16 wwn-0x50014ee200ed8e67-part5 -> > > ../../sda5 > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 3 10:16 wwn-0x50014ee200ed8e67-part6 -> > > ../../sda6 > > > > > > Note: I have grub2 boot loaders in the MBR's of the two sata hard drives > > which I knew as sda and sdb and lilo on the MBR of the ata drive which I > > knew as hda. The grub2 installation recommended putting the loader in > > all MBR's but problem with linux-base made it impossible to boot with > > grub. The lilo boot still worked and the linux-base problem was > > resolved when all references to the cdrom and usb drives was removed > > from fstab. The 2.6.32-5-amd64 kernel is apparently too large for lilo. > > First of all, thank you for taking the time to collect and post all of this > information. I know it must have been a pain; but believe me, there's no way > to solve the problem without this information. At the risk of telling you > what you already know, allow me to explain what happened. Prior to kernel > 2.6.32-5, the traditional IDE drivers were used for traditional IDE hard > drives (also know as parallel ATA or PATA drives). The user-space device > names for these drives were called /dev/hda, /dev/hdb, etc. On the kernel > side, these devices used major number 03. Serial ATA > (or SATA) drives were treated as SCSI disks and used the SCSI naming > convention. On the user-space side they were called /dev/sda, /dev/sdb, > etc. On the kernel side, these devices used major number 08. > > Starting with kernel 2.6.32-5, a newer driver was used for PATA drives > which, like the SATA drives, treated them as SCSI disks. In a typical > PC with only one hard disk, the device name simply changed from > /dev/hda to /dev/sda. However, in your case, since you already had two > other disks which were already being treated as SCSI disks, you now > have all three disks being treated as SCSI disks. The question is, > which disk is which? I.e. is the old /dev/hda now /dev/sda? Or is > it now /dev/sdb or /dev/sdc? > > If I am to believe the comments in /etc/fstab, you used to have a > partition called /dev/hda1, mounted as /temp, which has a UUID of > 4a2915d8-60cf-498e-a15c-f0bc6ebdb25e. According to the output of > "ls -Ald /dev/disk/by-uuid/", this uuid is now associated with > /dev/sdb1. You also used to have a partition called /dev/hda5, > mounted as /storage, which has a UUID of > 408287f4-8b15-42d1-b6d3-bfeaefde3002. According to the output of > "ls -Ald /dev/disk/by-uuid/", this uuid is now associated with > /dev/sdb5. Thus, we conclude that what used to be called /dev/hda > is now called /dev/sdb. The "quick fix" would be to code > > boot=/dev/sdb > > in /etc/lilo.conf and re-run lilo. And that will work, as long as > you are running a kernel which uses the newer libata drivers. > But if you ever run lilo while running a kernel which uses the older > IDE drivers, this will fail. That's not good. What you want to > do is to use a udev-created alias what will map to /dev/hda when > running a kernel which uses the old IDE driver and which maps to > /dev/sdb when running a kernel which uses the new libata driver. > And we can do that. Based on the output of "ls -Ald /dev/disk/by-id/", > what we really want to use is > > boot=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD307AA-00BAA0_WD-WMA2F3071727 > > This will work with both types of kernels. linux-base apparently > isn't smart enough to make this substitution. But that's what you > should do. > > However, since I'm up to my ears in your system configuration, > I would like to make some recommendations, if I may. > > (1) Avoid having multiple boot loaders installed at the same time, > if possible. If you can, find one boot loader which can boot > everything and stick with it. > > (2) If you ever create a custom kernel, you will have problems > with lilo because a kernel created by the Squeeze version of > "make-kpkg" or by "make deb-pkg" does not maintain the symlinks. > ("do_symlinks = yes" only works for custom kernels under Squeeze.) > For a more general treatment of this topic I recommend that you > read http://www.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/Kernel.htm, especially > "Step 10: Customize the Kernel Installation Process". You will > need to install hook scripts to maintain symlinks in this case, > such as the ones referenced on the web page. > > (3) If you are using lilo on an amd64 system, you might want to > try the latest upstream version of lilo. The Debian package is > available here: > > http://www.joonet.de/lilo/debian/squeeze/lilo_23.0-1_amd64.deb > > Although this is in Debian package format, this package is not > supported by Debian at this time; so if you have problems with it, > please do not open a Debian bug report against the lilo package. But > I do know that the upstream author, Joachim Wiedorn, made a number > of changes to lilo to work better with the amd64 architecture, > and he uses it himself. > > There is one known bug in the package, but it is easily fixed. > Change "#!/bin/sh" to "#!/bin/bash" in > /etc/initramfs/post-update.d/lilo. > > -- > .''`. Stephen Powell > : :' : > `. `'` > `- Thank you, Stephen, for a very interesting and helpful analysis of my problem. The "by-id" specification of the boot drive is exactly what I was trying to find and I will adopt it immediately.
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