On Sat, 2010-05-15 at 15:46 -0400, John A. Sullivan III wrote: > On Sat, 2010-05-15 at 13:50 +0000, Camaleón wrote: > > On Sat, 15 May 2010 08:52:21 -0400, John A. Sullivan III wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 2010-05-15 at 10:05 +0000, Camaleón wrote: > > > > >> Linux PDF "readers" are in a very good shape. In fact, I don't even > > >> have Acrobat Reader installed on my linux systems. > > > > > I thought this, too, until recently when working with companies which > > > use PDF heavily. I had always used KPDF as it seemed so much lighter > > > and faster than acroread. However, it has only a very small portion of > > > the full functionality of acroread. I had never noticed but our clients > > > did. > > > > Acrobat Reader for linux has some nice features, I agree. One of them is > > the ability to print brochures and booklets in a easy way. > > > > But is so "bloat" that I have discarded from any of my linux systems and > > use Evince almost exclusively (before Evince I was very happy with KPDF). > > On windows I try to install Foxit Reader or something similar. > > > > > It's everything from small things (like mousing into to lower left > > > corner and seeing the document size -very handy for non-standard sizes > > > such as construction drawings) to the massive printing problem that > > > afflicts all other Linux pdf readers - at least in Lenny, no pdf reader > > > could print non-default print sizes. No matter what we did, every > > > single PDF reader we tried insisted on printing to the default paper > > > size. Apparently this is a well known bug from the hours of searching > > > we did. Only acroread would let our client print their construction > > > drawings without shrinking them down letter or A4 size - John > > > > Mmmm... I'm not sure to fully understand the problem :-? > > > > I have a PDF file sized "prc5 Envelope, Landscape (220 x 110 mm)" which I > > open with Evince (2.22.2). Then I send the document for printing with any > > of our HP laserjet printers using the envelope feeder. I put the envelope > > in the tray, from Evince I go under "File / Printer settings" and from > > "Paper size" dropdown menu I choose "DL Envelope". The output is printed > > correctly, obeying the size of the printed media (DL envelope) and fiting > > the text correctly into it. > > > > Is that what are you referring about or are you (or your clients) > > experiencig another problem? > <snip> > In this case, the client had a Ricoh MP W3600 plotter although, if I > recall correctly, we had the same problem with all the printers - it was > just more obvious with the plotter. Let's say they wanted to send a > 24x36 drawing to the plotter. If they send it through any of the FOSS > PDF viewers, it prints a 24x36 job but the image is always the default > paper size, i.e., the drawing would be reduced to 8.5x11 and printed in > the middle of a 24x36 piece of paper. In some cases, we sent two pages > per side - reducing and rotating the drawings to fit two per page. In > this case, two 8.5x11 images appeared on the large sheet! > > Acroread is not without flaws either. Versions previous to 9.3.2 could > not see our CUPS print server's printers. 9.3.2 can see them but, > whenever it prints, it sends the default page region. Thus, if I > directly choose, say this 3600 plotter, and send a 36x48 drawing, I see > acroread has created a print job with -o PageSize=36x48 but also with -o > PageRegion=A4 (or whatever either the ppd default is or the first > PageRegion listed in the ppd if no default is defined). We've seen the > same thing when trying to send 11x17 jobs to other printers - it prints > Letter size (or whatever the default PageRegion is). We've escalated to > Ricoh but this really smells like an acroread bug. > > An upgrade to libcups2 solved the problem. We are running Lenny which uses libcups2 1.3.8. We upgraded to libcups2 1.4.3 from Squeeze and it solved the problem. We still have a similar problem when printing from Acrobat Standard on Windows via a CUPS print server. On to that problem next - John
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