On 22 Aug 2003 19:02:31 +0200, Benedict Verheyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Op do 21-08-2003, om 19:20 schreef Bret Comstock Waldow: > > On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 04:23, Benedict Verheyen wrote: > > > > This is a little difficult to grasp. How does your team handle > > versions of it's work now? And what language/environment are you > > coding for? > > > > The idea that management won't let an existing team use tools makes > > me think there's some other background here, and we need to know > > that in order to give sensible answers. Is it rather that there is > > an existing tool set in place already that isn't useful for your > > group? > > > > A manager too dumb to allow a programming team to organize their > > work defies sense. > > > > Bret > > Well, we are a rather small company (25 people) and of those 25 > people, we have 5 programmers, including me. Everytime we sell a > project management starts whining about time. In other words, they > sell sollutions but don't really take good guesses at how much time it > would take to produce the software. > Allways whining about time, time, time, sigh. > > So basically we do not get time to study these tools because they > don't see the need for versioning and so on. If we would use it and we > wouldn't lose time implementing such a system, management wouldn't > complain. That's why i asked for a quick and easy way to start using > something like that. ..do your estimates and quietly multiply by PI, and tell your twin hair to do the same, "ask" how much your/his dept lagged behind "last time", and how Management[Tm] etc felt about that. ;-) > Additional problem is that one of the programmers hate's commenting > his code and doesn't like to use tools like a cvs. > But that's a different story. ..oooh? Not a twin-hair-wannabe kinda type like in Dilbert? > We would actually be developing faster (reusable code) with these > tools but somehow they aren't convinced of that. ..so why don't you 4 bail out and prove your own thing? No need to stand up and wail out like an idiot on SS Titanic's stern deck. ;-) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
