"Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." <b...@iguanasuicide.net> wrote: > >So you are happy if someone givey you pre-alpha's and calls them "stable"? > >This sounds really strange. > > My first requirement is that the release team does not feel the need to use > the qualifier "alpha". I did not say that was my only condition. Please > don't put words into my mouth.
That's strange, you happily use pre-alpha code as long as it is not called alpha? > >> >cdrkit is not working > >> > >> I disagree. Next time I burn a CD with wodim, shall I send you the logs > >> to show that wodim is working? Or perhaps post them to a public forum? > > > >This does not prove anything. There are too many cases where it does nto > > work at all (e.g. on laptops, ...). I am talking on usability and not > > whether wodim may work sometimes under specific conditions. > > I have burned on my laptop many times in the last 2 years, using wodim. > Shall > I send you logs of it working on a laptop? I can show you many cases where > wodim is working. I can show you many cases when I have used wodim, showing > that it is usable. As far as usability is concerned, wodim and cdrecord have > virtually the same interface so they have roughly the same usability.[1] This is definitely not true. Wodim does not work for many (if not most) people. This alone causes differences in usability. As cdrtools introduced _many_ new features during the past 3 years, even iff wodim would work, it did not give you the same usability. > What would convince you that wodim is working? I've offered logs, I'm not > sure what else I can offer. Or, have you simply closed your mind to the > possibility that working CD/DVD/BD burning free software other than cdrtools > exists? You cannot convince people to believe things that are verifiably wrong. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?ordering=normal;archive=0;src=cdrkit;dist=unstable;repeatmerged=0 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cdrkit Note that many of these bugs are showstopper bugs and that there are more bugreports that have been removed although they are of course present. > I prefer to use working, free software like cdrkit. See my earlier messages > for why I consider cdrtools non-free software. As mentioned before: cdrkit is neither free nor working. If you like to use free and working software, you need to use the original cdrtools. Jörg -- EMail:jo...@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin j...@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
