On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 00:11:29 +0100 Bernard <bdebr...@teaser.fr> wrote:
> Hi Chris, Hi to Everyone, > > Stackpole, Chris wrote: > > >>From: Bernard [mailto:bdebr...@teaser.fr] > >>Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 4:44 PM > >>Subject: Re: my new Inspiron - WAS: OT: laptop recomendations > >> > >> > >> > >>>Stackpole, Chris wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>From: Bernard [mailto:bdebr...@teaser.fr] > >>>>Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 2:41 PM > >>>>To: Stackpole, Chris > >>>>Subject: Re: my new Inspiron - WAS: OT: laptop recomendations > >>>> > >>>> > >[snip] > > > > > >>>>light did not came out and I got two networks available, one is my > >>>>neigbour's, the other one is mine. I gave the pasword as required, > >>>> > >>>> > >and > > > > > >>>>it seems to reach a connexion... the former icon is being replaced > >>>> > >>>> > >by > > > > > >>>>four bars... If I get the pointer on it, it says : "connection to > >>>>wireless network Livebox-46db (0%). > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>[snip] > >>> > >>>0% is bad; especially if you have 4 bars shown. Something isn't > >>> > >>> > >right. > > > > > >>>Post your hardware please and let the list look at it. > >>> > >>>Have fun! > >>>~Stack~ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>my hardware is available at http://www.teaser.fr/~bdebreil/test.txt > >> > >>I have managed to get a cable DSL connexion, just plugging the cable > >>from my desktop, and it worked right away, so that I have been able to > >>save the trouble of typing one line after the other. "ncftp" was easy > >>enough to install for the purpose of that transfer. > >> > >>I just got the output of "lspci" at this stage. > >> > >> > > > >Looking at your hardware I see this: > >0b:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG > >Network Connection (rev 02) > > > >OK, I have that wireless card in one of my laptops. I know it works with > >Ubuntu and Debian. If it is not working with your current setup, > >something is buggered up. > > > I don't claim that it is not working, I just say that I haven't been > able to get it to work as far as getting a connexion to my DSL router > (Livebox). To this point, I'd rather suspect that I have not properly > set up the parameters. I had a hell of a hard time to get it to work, Any chance that you setup mac filtering on the router? Took me a couple of hours of serious aggravation last time I tried to setup my wifes ipod touch ... > back a few month ago on my desktop with Debian Sarge. It is very > complicated, to the point that, on that Desktop and Debian Sarge, I have > only been able to get a WPA connexion on my DSL router box, not on > places where I brought my computer (meeting rooms for associations), > where it did work only under MSWIN. It worked easier with WEP encryption > or no encryption. Therefore, I suspect that, if it does not work with my > new DELL Inspiron under Ubuntu 8.04, it likely is because I have not > properly setup parameters. Amongst most likely suspects, I would put : > It may be good to test wep and/or no encription as a start to make sure that everything works and it's just an issue of setting up wep properly. I found the wcid is better at handling wpa by the way that networkmanager which keeps dropping the connection on me. Do you have wpa-supplicant installed? > - improper host (my hostname is supposed to be "dell-desktop" ; I don't > know how I got this, it is "localhost" on my other computers > > - improper way to send parameters to the system. For instance, under > Debian Sarge on my desktop, my "interfaces" file include commands that > shows passphrase under brackets, while the network manager on Ubuntu > does not require brackets. There are a few details on my Interfaces file > on Debian Sarge that I can't reproduce on Ubuntu, for instance the mode > "Managed" and things of the kind. Such different ways to address > parameters, is very confusing indeed ; it leads me to suspect that, as > long as I have not found what is the problem, chances are rather slim > that I get better results with Debian Lenny or SID. I bet that I would > get a connexion right away if I changed the settings or my DSL Wifi to > "no encryption", or to "WEP encryption", but I don't see the point of > trying, since I don't intend to use any of these modes. What I did was > testing that WPA wifi connexion still worked on my desktop : it does. On > my new DELL laptop, no connexion works except cabled DSL connexion. > However, as I said, the system works, since it detects neigbourhood wifi > points, but can't connect. If you find it useful, I might try to convert > my DSL wifi router to WEP encryption, but I bet it will work. Besides, I > don't know how to overcome the fact that I can't use "sudo" : "unable to > resolve host dell-desktop", which prevents me to modify the file > /etc/network/interfaces. I must say, however, that the content of this > file does change according to what I specify in the Ubunto/Gnome network > interface, so this is a proof that it all works together. Indeed that > "interfaces" file does look funny right now ; it includes a passphrase > that I have never typed, and that is a lot longer than that I have > typed. I must precise that, just in case you wouldn't have noticed, I am > close to an ignorant as far as wifi config is concerned. At one time, > amongst the so numerous options that were offered, I was proposed to > type a "network pasword". I thought I had to type the WPA TKIP > passphrase, so I did... but, two or three caracters before the end, no > more was accepted... So it appears that I was supposed to type something > else, or nothing at all. It maybe that my typings were translated into a > passphrase, which can't be the right one... All this is so very > confusing for a newbee... > > Thanks for more help, on a more ground level basis. > > > > > > > > > > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org