>>>>> "Diego" == Diego Calleja García <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> programs, and their ftp server distributes them. That's why we don't >> have links to their site on www.gnu.org. Diego> *ahem*ahem* Diego> I was going to say....well. Better I'll shut up. Some people just Diego> can't learn. Learn what? Or is it that you can't learn? Different people have different opinions, and the fact that www.gnu.org decided not to have a link to Debian means that the crews in www.gnu.org agreed to RMS about not having Debian listed is a good idea, even though GNU is the one who started Debian. And www.gnu.org does not represent RMS alone, but instead a group of followers who are pushing the ideals of GNU. FSF is not about getting something usable as soon as possible. If that is the case, we don't need GNU, since Unix had always been available (although probably with a fee and unsatisfying license). It's a political movement, and being such it wants the largest number of people know about the political ends. Having the most people using Linux or even GNU software is *not* the motivation of GNU. So if some existing distribution doesn't suggest the use of proprietary software *at all*, it is simply natural for GNU to promote that, than to promote something that *does* suggest the use of those proprietary software (people would say, "proprietary software are good and necessary---even the software distribution promoted by primary proponents like FSF suggests the use of them). Frankly, I don't find anything wrong or sad about it, and I don't find it difficult to continue to use Debian as a result of that. Of course, moving non-free software out of Debian is better, but it's so hard to get there. Regards, Isaac. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]