On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 09:44:47AM -0500, Henning Follmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 08:53:46AM -0500, Jeff Soules wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 3:44 AM, lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Do you mean it is more likely that any one drive in the array fails when > > > you have more drives, or do you mean that it is more likely for a drive > > > in the array to fail when you have more drives? If drives fail more > > > often when being used in an array with more drives, what makes them > > > fail more often under those conditions? > > > > It's purely a statistical property, not related to being in a RAID > > array. But if there's (say) a 5% chance for a given drive to fail on > > a given day, there's a 95% chance it won't fail. > > If you have two drives, the chance *both* won't fail is the chance of > > one not failing, times the chance of the other not failing -- 95% > > times 95%, or 90.25%. > > > > With 24, the chance of all the drives not failing is .95^24 or 29.2%. > > > > Of course I just made the rates up, the survival chances of individual > > drives are higher. But logic holds; the more drives you're watching, > > the more lucky you'd have to be for none of them to be a dud. > > > Jeff, > you math is off - way off. > > P(one fails) != 5/100 > > P(two drives fail at the same time) = P(one fails) * P(one fails)
Yes, but he was calculating P(drive 1 fails OR drive 2 fails) = 1 - P(neither drive 1 NOR drive 2 fails) = 1 - P(drive 1 doesn't fail) * P(drive 2 doesn't fail) and he already said he made the rates up for illustrative purposes. Besides, the failure rate is meaningless unless we know the interval -- over a sufficiently long time, I expect that drives will have a failure rate of 5%. Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]