On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 16:00:09 +0200
Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

...

> Here is what I get when I print www.debian.org to a PDF with iceweasel
> 3.0~rc2-2 (output of pdffonts v3.00 from poppler-utils 0.8.4-1.1):
> 
> name                                 type              emb sub uni object ID
> ------------------------------------ ----------------- --- --- --- ---------
> CairoFont-0-0                        CID Type 0C       yes no  yes      6  0
> BitstreamVeraSans                    CID TrueType      yes no  yes      9  0
> ArialBold                            CID TrueType      yes no  yes     11  0
> Arial                                CID TrueType      yes no  yes     12  0
> DejaVuSansBold                       CID TrueType      yes no  yes     17  0
> BitstreamVeraSansMono                CID TrueType      yes no  yes     18  0
> CairoFont-6-0                        CID Type 0C       yes no  yes     73  0
> KochiGothic                          CID TrueType      yes no  yes     74  0

I get (same IW, pdffonts 3.02 from xpdf-utils 3.02-1.3):

name                                 type              emb sub uni object ID
------------------------------------ ----------------- --- --- --- ---------
VKJNGT+f-4-0                         TrueType          yes yes yes     88  0
RRTVUI+f-0-0                         TrueType          yes yes yes      9  0
PGUGBG+f-1-0                         TrueType          yes yes yes     13  0
[none]                               Type 3            yes no  yes     20  0
[none]                               Type 3            yes no  yes     32  0
GMTXSU+f-7-0                         Type 1C           yes yes yes    103  0
RXRETH+f-6-0                         Type 1C           yes yes yes    101  0
MFZMRR+f-5-0                         TrueType          yes yes yes     99  0
[none]                               Type 3            yes no  yes    108  0
[none]                               Type 3            yes no  yes    112  0
[none]                               Type 3            yes no  yes    115  0

Which is pretty much what I reported in my previous message.

> The text that looks OK in your PDF has no CSS font specifications
> associated with it, so iceweasel should render it using your configured
> default font. The elements with the ugly fonts in the PDF, on the other
> hand, all have this CSS declaration:
> 
> font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;
> 
> Here is how my system matches these names:
> 
> $ for F in Arial Helvetica sans-serif; do fc-match $F; done
> Arial.ttf: "Arial" "Normal"
> n019003l.pfb: "Nimbus Sans L" "Regular"
> Vera.ttf: "Bitstream Vera Sans" "Roman"
> 
> These font files come from the packages msttcorefonts, gsfonts-x11, and
> ttf-bitstream-vera, respectively. Do you have these packages installed?
> If not, does installing them give you nicer fonts in the PDF? If you do
> not want to befoul your system with the evil runes of Redmond then you
> could try installing ttf-liberation instead.

I had the latter two installed, but not the MS fonts.  I had actually
tried earlier to install them to see if it would help; it didn't, so I
removed them.  I installed liberation, and my above pdffonts output is with
gsfonts-x11, ttf-bitstream-vera and ttf-liberation all installed.  What
could be wrong?

>           Florian   |

Thanks,
Celejar
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