On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 05:31:04PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote:
> Martin, you have to realize that I've never even tried to play a DVD
> before, and so I'm at a loss. What are the vobs? I just did $ mplayer
> /dev/hdc and the old DVD played. No idea what "dvd://" is
> either. Looks like a URI.

the correct way(from a command line) to play dvds is:

mplayer dvd://

or

mplayer dvd://n

where n is a dvd title.

vobs are containers, that actually hold the mpeg2(dvd video codec). you get to
look at them when you mount a dvd. you can play those too, but the dvd is
usually encrypted and you have to decrypt the title first. this is done
automatically by libdvdread and libdvdcss (which is usually compiled into 
mplayer) when
using the "mplayer dvd://" format. so the correct way to play dvds is way.

mpeg2 and ac3 codecs(video and audio for dvds) is contained in ffmpeg codec
package(libavc) which is included with mplayer, so you do not need any win32 
codecs.
actually, you don't need those codecs for normal use. most of the codecs you
will ever encounter are in the ffmpeg package.

> > uninstalling won't help you. if you want a fully functional mplayer, use svn
> > version and compile it. of use vlc. it supports dvd menus, unlike mplayer. 
> > not
> > that there is any need of them.
> 
> Do I understand you correctly that mplayer is more limited, and I'd
> have better luck if I installed vlc?

the mplayer development is very fast. they release versions once a year or so
but the svn version is constantly under development with new features and 
bugfixes.
the mplayer gui doesn't keep up with mplayer features, because most of the
users use it from the command line.

I've found that new users are more comfortable with vlc and its gui. It also
understands dvd menus so you don't have to play around in cli and workout what
dvd title you actually want to play. I'm used to this but many people aren't.
And since vlc is based on ffmpeg codecs package as well you get virtualy the
same playing capabilities as mplayer has. 

mk


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