On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 08:13:25PM +0100, Richard Lyons wrote: > On Friday 01 August 2003 18:55, David Fokkema wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 07:48:36AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > [...] > > > And I can guarantee you that I will never respond to > > > "challenges". > > > > Why? > > > > If you send mail to a list and you get a challenge, sure, ignore > > it. If a user of the mailbox-sentry-program or tmda > > (tmda.sourceforge.net) fails to place a mailing list on his > > personal whitelist he's just being careless or stupid. (Or, he > > might be still figuring out his setup and might be neither.) > > > > If you send mail directly to a person, off-list, in private, why > > not respond to his challenge? [...] > > Yes. Good questions. > > The trouble is, while we who love the internet and have been using it > for years all feel to a greater or lesser degree outraged by the > crass nastiness of most spam, we have somehow become divided into > warring factions fighting for the peak of the moral high ground. Or > fighting for what we see as the most practical response. I am > convinced there is room for some compromise, for an acceptance by the > C-R proponents that filtering will continue to have a place, and a > corresponding acceptance by filterers that C-R can be a powerful > force for good. If each side looks more favourably on the other's > work, we might just begin to invent an effective response that will > pre-empt the drive by some of TPTB to grab more power by stepping in > to regulate this too. The politicians are the real enemy.
Well, I'm not really sure about your final statement, but I totally agree with the rest. > This is really way OT here, but I for one would be happy to discuss it > elsewhere. It is, indeed. But where? David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]