I know about that, but then you have to pull stuff like glibc etc from
unstable...

On 7/27/07, Jonathan Kaye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Tim Hull wrote:
>
> > I'm currently trying out both Debian and Ubuntu on my MacBook to see
> which
> > one I prefer.
> > Right now, I'm currently liking Debian better - the stability seems
> > better, and it seems easier to customize
> > - but I need to run software that's newer than what's in etch (not for a
> > lust for bleeding-edge, but simply for the reason
> > that my MacBook won't suspend or do proper power management in any
> kernel
> > older than 2.6.22).  I also want to be
> > able to get updated packages such as the newest Firefox...er..Iceweasel
> > (still hate that name, would prefer something
> > less silly).
> >
> > I know the easy Debian solution is to run testing/unstable - it seems
> like
> > most people do.  However, then you lose the advantage of
> > stability.  I actually tried testing and unstable, but found a critical
> > bug pertaining to my video card - my system likes to reboot on suspend
> > with the
> > new Xorg drivers (yes, dutifully reported it to BTS).   For this reason,
> I
> > figure I'll confine Lenny/Sid to a VM or chroot, and I've been looking
> > into
> > backports.  However, backports.org doesn't seem to have what I need (it
> > only has 2.6.21 kernel, doesn't have the new acpi-support, not to
> mention
> > some
> > extra gstreamer plugins I wanted).   What would be the ideal solution
> for
> > me?  Is there a reliable way to roll my own backports using apt to pull
> in
> > dependencies?  Can I build from Sid sources on an as-needed basis?  I've
> > come across a tool called "apt-build" which pulls down dependencies and
> > builds from source - is it what I need? What should I put in my
> > sources.list ?
> >
> > On a side note, I will say that the one area I think FOSS lags behind
> > Windows and Mac is in updating individual system components.  I LIKE
> being
> > able to update a few things without hackish solutions (i.e. build from
> > source tarballs) or updating my whole system.  You can do it easily on
> > Mac/Windows, but it's quite difficult and unreliable on nearly every
> > distribution.  I think Debian really ought to look into making backports
> > an official project and integrating it into the stable release as a way
> to
> > get
> > updates on an as-needed basis.   It may even be an interesting idea to
> do
> > point releases of stable with some backports included.  Has this ever
> been
> > discussed?  It seems a lot better than simply speeding up the release
> > cycle...
> Hi Tim,
> Have you looked at apt-pinning? I think this gives you exactly what you're
> looking for. I personally don't find using testing loses me any stability
> but that's just my opinion. There's a simple introduction to apt-pinning
> that you can find here:
> http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html
> This may do the trick for you.
> Cheers,
> Jonathan
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