> -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Sackville-West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: May 3, 2007 11:54 AM > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Dangers of "stable" in sources.list > > > On Thu, May 03, 2007 at 11:24:56AM -0400, Jan Sneep wrote: > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Andrew Sackville-West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: May 3, 2007 10:44 AM > > > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > > Subject: Re: Dangers of "stable" in sources.list > > > > > > mildly humorous to think someone could be *surprised* by a debian > > > release ;-O. > > > > Actually I was ... not sure if it was mentioned here on the > list or not ? > > well, the list traffic certainly went through the roof when it > happened including lots of "congratulations on the release" posts, but > really, I was only making a lame joke about the snail's pace of debian > releases. Something I fully get and appreciate, BTW. > > [...] > > > > > > > just a guess, but maybe so that no matter when you install, that > > > install disk will get you moving into stable. so you could use a > > > really old installer and automatically move right up to > stable with > > > the next dist-upgrade. > > > > > > > I had a NetInstall CD of Sarge that I made in January and > when I did the > > update last week I lost everything. I found I couldn't use > that CD it get > > Etch installed. It would crap-out because it was trying to > replace the > > kernel from the CD with the one from the mirror and kaboom! No go. > > > hmm.. yeah, I guess that makes sense, now that I actually apply my > brain to it. There are ways to work around it, but from the newbie > perspective, they are less than ideal. > > > > > > > > > also, ISTM, that if you are paying attention at all, > you'd notice when > > > the change happened. If you do a regular dist-upgrade, there will > > > suddenly be a pile of upgrades instead of the usual trickle. THat > > > should be enough to cause one to review what is happening > and hold off > > > on an upgrade if its necessary. > > > > > > > Not really a, IMHO, very good way to make sure someone > doesn't make the > > mistake I made ... REALLY should have some check built in > to ALL the various > > methods one can use to do an update to FLAG that you are > about to perform > > and UPGRADE not just an UPDATE. > > with all due respect, and only the best of intentions, the Apt system > always asks if you really want to do what you are about to do. (unless > you're installing 1 and only 1 package). I will agree though > that if one > isn't up to speed yet, they'd not recognise that upgrading a couple > hundred packages is not a normal situation for the stable > distribution. > > I hadn't done an update since I installed > > Sarge back in January, because I didn't know how. Read some > of the posts to > > this list that in effect said that Aptitude was the way to > go, so read what > > I though I needed from the user guide and it's "marketing" > message confirmed > > that Aptitude was the next-best-thing-to-sliced-bread as it > would manage all > > the dependancies automatically that with other methods you > would have to do > > manually. So I with great confidence told it to go and > update everything for > > me! Well as you know I lost everything. > > are you refering here to your netowrk problem and your reinstalling? > if so, its really not fair to blame that on the apt system :). > > > Had to get a new Etch NetInst CD and > > start over again. The ONLY good side to this is that I'm > getting pretty good > > at running the NetInst CD and have almost all the prompts > memorized ... :O) > > wait til you learn how to have it install everything automatically, > including answering all the questions :) > > > > > I guess if we're taking votes ... cast my newbie vote for > using the name > > rather than "stable" ... > > Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting one method over the other, just > trying to point out how I think it works. you are free to use > whichever method you choose.
I just check my sources.list file and interestingly the default when doing a clean NetInst is to point to the Etch folders on the miror site, not "stable". No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/785 - Release Date: 2007.05.02 2:16 PM -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
