On Sun, 2007-04-15 at 19:03 +0100, andy wrote:
> Jonathan Kaye wrote: 
> > andy wrote:
> > 
> >   
> > > My wife, using Etch, was writing a long document in OOo, went to
> > > go and
> > > save it as *.doc (for transport to work) and the document crashed.
> > > Now
> > > everything except the very earliest save is gone! She is *not*
> > > impressed
> > > (so much for my Linux advocacy!).
> > > How can I recover the document - the auto-recovery of OOo only
> > > retrieved
> > > the earlier stuff, but all changes she has made over the last few
> > > hours
> > > are gone.
> > > 
> > > Any guides on how I can rescue and resuscitate the document as
> > > close to
> > > when it crashed as possible and save my wife's emotional sanity?
> > > 
> > > A BIG thanks
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >     
> > Hi Andy,
> > Again, it would be helpful if you indicate which version of OOo you
> > are
> > using. What was the backup frequency set to in Tools -> Options ->
> > Load/Save -> "Save Autorecovery every ..... minutes"? That will
> > determine
> > with what frequency your work is backed up. I don't have much
> > experience
> > with M$ Word but I suppose it works in much the same way. I'm not
> > sure what
> > you mean when you say "the document crashed". Do you mean OOo
> > crashed? You
> > might want to describe what exactly happened because I don't think
> > this is
> > normal behaviour. My girlfriend is an editor/translator and has used
> > OOo
> > for several years. She typically gets long and complicated docs that
> > need
> > to be sent back (with the changes recored) in .doc format. She has
> > never
> > experienced this kind of problem. You might also post your query to
> > the
> > comp.openoffice.questions newsgroup. That's probably the best place
> > for the
> > recovery issue and why OOo crashed on saving as a .doc file.
> > Cheers,
> > Jonathan 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> Jonathan
> 
> Thanks for the reply.
> Sorry it is OOo-2.0.4. The auto back-up feature was not enabled (!!).
> Yes, I meant that OOo as an app crashed - spontaneously closed. When
> she went to reopen OOo, she agreed to the recovery option and the
> earlier version was recovered while her work was lost (she was trying
> to save it when the app crashed).
> 
> I have since found out (after searching and joining a couple of other
> mailing lists) that the data is inevitably dead and gone ... at least
> as far as OOo is concerned. I have now adjusted the auto back-up to
> every 5 minutes and a back-up will be created.

Yes, pretty much.

>  I have also been advised to save the file in native *.odt before
> trying to save it as *.doc.

THIS is the single best piece of advice you have gotten. Do all work in
ODF (.odt and the like). It is the best tested piece. It also does *MUCH
MUCH MUCH* better auto-saving.

>  Apparently OOo document recovery function isn't much good - i.e. not
> reliable - and one is warned to stay away from it.

That would be when saving by default as a MSWORD .doc.

>  I have also come across some discussion that one should uninstall the
> distro-version of OOo and install the native version.

Distro-version would be the "native" version. The OO.o build is
statically linked, much larger and would use much more memory than the
Debian version. And SINCE you have now set you saving defaults better
than what you had been using... things should clear up and become a much
better behaved.

You need to read you discussions on "non-distro" sight as fan-boyism, or
bigots for "built the right way" from the suite packagers.

Remember, Debian supports your version currently installed. If you go
outside Debian and something goes wrong... Debian and its community will
likely point and laugh, that is if you dare ask... 

There are those of us, that will still answer, with some helpful
pointers, but will still admonish for going outside Debian.

> Anyway, there's not much to do now. Why OOo crashed and why the
> recovery didn't ...  will probably never know. Was a right royal PITA
> I can tell you - for both of us!

Indeedly. If you want to make a OO.o v2.2 backport, it really isn't that
tough. But I doubt you will at the moment.

If you do, contact me offlist.
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