On Wednesday 16 July 2003 00:33, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote:

> | I use KMail - is it being lame?
>
> Yes.  Or, possibly, it has a list reply feature that you haven't found
> yet.  I can't say for certain because I don't use it.

On Wednesday 16 July 2003 03:19, Joerg Johannes wrote:

> I use kmail too. I am filtering the debian-user mailing list to a
> seperate folder called "debian-user" (smart, eh? ;) ) with the builtin
> filter options. I use the "X-Mailing-List: " header for that. The
> folder options are set to "folder contains a mailing list" and the
> mailing-list adress: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". Now when you reply
> to a thread, you want to hit the "l" button (ell) instead of "r" This
> will reply to the list.

Right. Found the Reply-to-list menu item.  Keystroke is lower case "ell" and 
not the upper case "ell" as noted in the menu.  Used it to compose this reply.

I *enjoyed* the discussion.  As a code wonk in embedded systems for most my 
career I missed out on the joys of actually knowing how email systems worked. 
Combination MTA/MDA/MUA mail clients prolonged and supported my ignorance. 
This thread helped me fathom the depth of my ignorance.

I am keen to leave KMail and KDE because it just stops working at times - 
infrequently and aperiodically, but too often to ignore now.  It usually 
breaks when I click once too often in Konqueror or bring up some KFubar 
application. More PITA.  So my thinking is that KDE, Gnome, and others like 
them are too much stuff too tightly integrated with too many test cases for 
even the OS community.  I want to return to 1993 and reclaim some reliability 
and control in exchange for pretty uni-style GUIs that are akin to living in 
a modern suburb where all the houses and stores look alike and there are 
covenants.  I prefer the one job - one program approach.  It will do me good 
I think to know the MTA/MDA/MUA components individually.

I checked KMail for the possibility of accessing more than one smtp host - my 
version (standard Debian stable package of KDE) seems to support only one 
host.  So I would have to set up more than one user account to access more 
than one smtp host.  I have one ISP and many various POP accounts so I think 
the Exim-Mutt combination will work well in my case.

I have witnessed KMail spinning around when the smtp host is unavailable (not 
as frequent with my cable access as compared to my old DSL access). I would 
actually prefer instance notification of inability to send.  

As for Mutt having a vi editor, I thought that was pretty cool actually :-).

Again, thanks for the considerable effort in this thread.  I, for one, 
learned a lot.  It also spared the list some simple questions I was bound to 
ask.
-- 
Mike Mueller


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