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Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 01:11:04PM -0500, Jonathan Wilson wrote:
>  
>> It's one thing for myself to do it (I can use vi and emacs) but sometimes I 
>> help other people who are less skilled to installs - sometimes over the 
>> phone 
>> - and it's makes me crazy to have to explain to them "ok, now type 
>> vi /etc/network/interfaces . . . yes, I said interfaces . . . use your tab 
>> key to fill it out . . . ok now hit you down arrow twice . . . hit "I" so 
>> you'll go into insert mode . . . type eth0 . . . What? you didn't hit "I"? 
>> ok 
>> we have to start over . . . "
>>
> 
> So don't start a newbie off with vi.  Have them use nano.
> 
> To avoid the DHCP thing, pass a boot parameter:
>       netcfg/disable_dhcp=true
> 
> Doug.
> 
> 
Ditto.

There's a reason that nano is the default editor.  Take a brand new etch
install, then apt-get install sudo, then visudo to set up a user account
with it.  You're running nano.  Maybe it should be called nanosudo.

You want vi? change /etc/prefereces/editor to symlink vi and then visudo
will run vi.

I suppose one should use update-preferences to do that, but that's one
of the "tools" that hide how things really work.  Just like editing the
/etc/network/interfaces compared to running a tool to edit it for you.

Again, one of the reasons I switched to Debian is so I didn't have all
these fancy little tools.  Everything is stored in text files that can
be edited with one's favorite editor.  That's the way it is, and that's
the way it should stay.

As for the network settings, how hard is it really?  Especially with
modern routers all providing DHCP.

Thanks, Doug for the boot cheat.  I didn't know that one.

Joe

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