On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 02:55:44PM -0700, Admin wrote:
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> Any suggestions would be appreciated.  Could I simply do an FTP of some 
> Debian mirror?  What I don't like about this FTP idea or the installer 
> as far as that goes is that many of the applications I want are not 
> available except from their development sites.  Examples are TCL, 
> Python, Lisp, and many others;  It lookis like I would have to (separate 
> from the installer and separate from the FTP ) gather these binaries and 
> sources one at a time site by site.  Or have I got something very 
> wrong???

others have more than adequately answered your other questions. FTR, I
say, just order the set of CD's from someone and save yourself the
hassle. Install what you want from the cd's and then just
update/upgrade over your connection from time-to-time.

Regarding the above. Debian has over 16,000 packages already bundled
up: compiled binaries w/ dependency information and documentation (to
some extent) and source code available as well. I'm not sure about TCL
but there are several versions of python and certainly many flavors of
lisp as well. You can get all these packages from one site, a
debian-mirror, using the package management tools (apt-get, aptitude,
synaptic etc). The process of gathering this is seperate from the
install proper, but are a integral part of debian and are simple to
do. for example, if you want python, you could simply issue a command:

aptitude install python

and away it goes... when done you have python.

how about tcl? 

apt-cache search tcl

this produces 217 packages matching 'tcl', hmmm... lets narrow that
down by searching just the names of packages and not their
descriptions

apt-cache -n search tcl

gets us 74 packages, one of which is tcl8.3

aptitude install tcl8.3 

would then pull in tcl and whatever was required to run it. 

hth

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