On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 11:46:47AM -0500, Alex Malinovich wrote:
> I've been noticing some very strange problems with my primary desktop. I
> normally don't shut ever shut it off and everything works great. No
> crashes, no lockups, no instability. However, any time I shut it off for
> a while before turning it back on, it becomes extremely unstable. It
> will crash, lockup, spontaneously reboot, etc, for a few minutes. But
> once it's "warmed up" it's back to its usual stable self. Obviously, the
> first idea that comes to mind is thermal expansion, but I can't think
> where the problem could lie. Everything that attaches to a motherboard
> tends to do so quite firmly, and for good reason. Any suggestions?

I had this too, some years back. Ended up throwing away the motherboard.
Ah no, I still have it somewhere, :-)

Anyway, you might want to start (Free)DOS and write a simple program (C,
asm, QBASIC, ;-) that only prints the current time to the screen. That's
a one-liner in basic. Let it run for a while...

I noticed that my RTC just stopped ticking! Pushing the battery or the
motherboard someplaces, spraying cooling liquid (for finding thermal
defects) and such things let the clock tick again, but only for a few
seconds. After many minutes (15-30 or so...) the clock started ticking,
slowly, ... and after it gained a reasonable 'speed' I could reboot and
everything worked flawlessly. The problem with linux and windows was
that they did all sorts of things and crashed immediately when the RTC
stopped, whereas DOS continued UNLESS (!!!!) you generated an interrupt
(eg. touching the keyboard).

Whether you have this same behaviour or not, I would say your
motherboard is broken and you have a thermal defect: a contact somewhere
that (after thermal expansion) will remain conducting and in place, but
before that behaves erratically.

HTH,

David


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