I installed straight to testing (but using a stable netinstall CD) a couple months ago. When gnome2 into was released into it from unstable a couple weeks ago I ran into similar issues. I am looking forward to watching this thread to see what the expert insight to this is. My opinion is that Gnome2 'works' but it doesn't 'work right'. Isn't that what testing is for though? To test for bugs that aren't critical and prepare for the next stable version that does 'work right'. There are gnome2 version packages that are still in held up in unstable that I think maybe should have held up the whole gnome2 upgrade, but I don't know that much about the details to make this statment as anything more than a personal opinion.
Here is a link about ideas for moving debian to gnome2, but I didn't get a good feeling of resolution:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?archive=no&bug=154950
I also get the error message from the gnome settings daemon. I think it's due to nautilus being gnome and not the gnome2 version. The gnome2 version of nautilus seems to be held back in unstable with some automated build errors.
I also have some interestingly scaled and rendered fonts in some applications. On this page (http://cert.uni-stuttgart.de/archive/debian/testing/2003/05/msg00058.html) there is mention of the local affecting fonts. I should check my local. I dont remember which I chose, other than knowing it wasn't 'C'.
I haven't run across any applets not working, and my gnome-panel v2.2.2-1 seems to be running ok (with the exception of trying to launch terminal based apps with gnome-terminal which is also missing in testing, held up in unstable with autobuild issues.)
Jacob Anawalt
John W. M. Stevens wrote:
Hello,
I upgraded from stable to testing, in order to be able to start using Gnome2, only to find that there was no good way to get a complete, usable Gnome2 installation.
Many things are broken, including:
1) Fonts. They are really ugly, and it seems that the previous defaults were just ignored.
2) The Gnome Settings Daemon was not installed, and it repeatedly complains about that lack. I can't find any package that indicates that it might contain this semi-mythical daemon.
3) It seems impossible to figure out what will conflict with what, without actually trying just about every combination. Incompatible packages are all stuffed into the gnome section, with no clue as to what packages should be installed to get a reasonably complete Gnome2 installation. I seem to have installed, and uninstalled, parts of both Gnome and Gnome2 several times now.
There was rumour of a gnome2 meta package. It doesn't seem to actually exist. Perhaps it's only in experimental?
4) There SHOULD be a way to run both Gnome and Gnome2 on the same machine, as the major number of the libraries is different, but the packages seem to be configured in such a way as to insist that these are incompatible.
Yes, this will eat up more memory (both library versions must be resident at the same time), but if Gnome2 in testing simply isn't yet complete, then I really have no choice.
Is there any documentation on how, using testing, to get the most complete (applets, to, please!) Gnome2 installation possible?
Please, no suggestion about "pinning" anything, as there doesn't seem to be any documentation or man pages about what that is, or how to do that, either.
Thanks, John S.
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