Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 06:19:38PM +0300 or thereabouts, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > > This has been discussed pretty extensively a while ago. The conclusion > > was that d-u has pretty effective spam-filtering, the signal-to-noise > > ratio is very low. > > I understand your point, however it's annoying when for example, in my > case, in the past 8 months (since I've been observing closely) any UCE > that gets through to my e-mail, is all from debian-user. We're not > talking about a lot, but still it's too much.
You should see debian-www, it's much worse and it has a fraction of the traffic of d-u > So, when people like me, whom are on many e-mail lists, only get UCE from > debian-user, then I would think it would be prudent for Debian to > rethink their policy regarding how "open" these lists are currently. > > It's not appropriate in my view, to allow anyone to post to debian-user, > without first subscribing. Apparently, anyone can post to debian-user, > without needing to do that step. I don't buy the argument that it's too > much of a hurdle to expect a newbie to debian to subscribe -- > Subscribing to e-mail lists is done pretty much everywhere, so it's an > expected task, by pretty much anyone using them. > > This is why debian-user is being constantly blacklisted -- So the onus is on > Debian to fix things on their end. Being too open has it's price, and > it's the subscribers to this list that are basically being deluged with > UCE, due to Debian not acting accordingly to the best of their ability. IMHO 'deluged' is a bit exagerated. Also you can spot most spam by subject, so it's almost like filtering uninteresting threads. > Hell, it's not like Debian.org doesn't have the expertise to do what's > right IMO. > > -- > Regards > Stephen As I said, this has been discussed extensively and your arguments are not new. Please don't reopen this issue as it generated a nasty flamewar. I don't mind if you want to continue this off-list. Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
